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Roadrunner: KX closed at 3 AM. Time for some zeds! Goodnight all.
arabianights: More to the point - for the lazy reader - KX connecting now at ten to midnight :)
Roadrunner: Apologies-please reconnect to KX.
arabianights: erm I suppose that goes back to 1st world problems
arabianights: if the meals were from COOK or something I would unequivocally have them, but alas they are from not waitrose, not even M&S, heck not even Tesco - but from the CO OP!!!
Roadrunner: KX 1985 open.
arabianights: still, the even greater simplicity of just sticking something in the microwave an piercing it a little bit shouldn't be understimated
arabianights: (ok sausages and chips is not haute cuisine but these are greate sausages and great chips)
arabianights: the sausage/chip thing is much better quality but also marginally more effort
arabianights: I will decide in about half an hour
Roadrunner: Option B!
arabianights: (not exactly culinary challenges)
arabianights: (for those keeping score, option A is microwave a curry ready meal. option B is cook some sausages and deep fry some chips, then add ketchup to taste...)
arabianights: I still need to work out what I will have for supper but that may take me more than an hour - don't worry though cause the two options both require very little "cooking"
arabianights: okliy dokily
Roadrunner: Give me 10 mins to set-up.
Roadrunner: People have been discouraged in the past from using the chat box.
Temple Meads: There's 28 people online, a KX game should work
arabianights: (heck if you relied on chat probably no game wouold ever start :D )
jishmondo: Maybe tomorrow if anything's going on
arabianights: worth starting a game and seieng if anyone turns up no?
arabianights: a lot of players don't seem to say anything in chat
Roadrunner: I would need more players, DJ.
Roadrunner: Pity, JM. Never mind-hope to see you next time.
arabianights: that said I'm cool with starting the game with any other panel :)
arabianights: sure but I didn't really know what was going on, I think the only way I can get that is to do it from zero time
jishmondo: Would love to play but I have work early tomorrow :(
Roadrunner: You did fine last time. Remember, 3 platforms were closed!
arabianights: I screwed it up big time last time but I reckon I can do it if I start from scratch...
arabianights: how about starting 1985 from beginning with me working cross
arabianights: actually, if it's just you and me in chat
arabianights: uh oh
Roadrunner: I have the saves from 1985.
arabianights: (my upload would probably struggle with it amongst other reasons)
arabianights: in *theory* I could do it but believe me I am not a sensible first choice
Roadrunner: haha. Hosty wosty. Nice new word.

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TOPIC: Copy telephone call to Clipboard

Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 04:50 #1

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I think it would be handy to have a Copy button at the bottom of the Answer call from train xxxx window, which when clicked copies the whole message received by me to the Windows Clipboard for pasting into a sticky note.

Although it is possible to do this manually now by highlighting and copying the text, unless you remember to do this, the message text is gone forever. It's all too easy to forget to save, click an acknowledgment and lose the message.
Last Edit: 16 Feb 2012 05:43 by maxand. Reason: added emphasis to "received by me"
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Re: Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 05:17 #2

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Doesn't it show up in your messages window?
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Re: Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 05:38 #3

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Doesn't it show up in your messages window?
Only my reply, which is only half the story. Or if any part of the message shows up, it's usually greatly abbreviated.

Maybe I should have been clearer in my original post. I was thinking of the situation where a driver phones in to say the train's developed a fault and is due to depart at a delayed time. What I'm most interested in is the delayed time of departure, but if I forget to copy it down somewhere, it seems there's no way to retrieve it afterwards.

As you say, no need to copy my answer - I know what I replied and it's also in the Messages window.
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Re: Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 06:49 #4

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Added to developers "wish list".

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Re: Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 09:39 #5

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maxand wrote:
I was thinking of the situation where a driver phones in to say the train's developed a fault and is due to depart at a delayed time. What I'm most interested in is the delayed time of departure, but if I forget to copy it down somewhere, it seems there's no way to retrieve it afterwards.

Can't vouch for all sims, but on a lot of them the substance of that sort of incoming message is shown on the Incident Report (F7) - which leads to the curse - click - click scenario when you realise you have shut down the telephone message without taking in the content properly.
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Re: Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 09:51 #6

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drop a sticky note next to it with "del: 14:25" or similar to remind you
"we apologise for the delay to the 09:21 Cross country service to newcastle....this is due to a delay" - Announcement, sheffield station
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Re: Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 11:36 #7

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drop a sticky note next to it with "del: 14:25" or similar to remind you
I get it - del stands for "delayed".

Thanks, that's what I used to do (till I wrote a macro to copy it for me). Having a Copy button eliminates typing and typos. Personally, I hate typing colons. :)

The real-life equivalent would be something like an old-fashioned teleprinter. Do they use them in signal boxes? Air Traffic Control used to (and probably still do) to print out latest weather advisories, etc.
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Re: Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 12:12 #8

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Another note on how this is handled in real life (and I've had this loads of times myself).

If a train is going to be delayed leaving a station then the driver/guard will tell the platform staff. He will then call the signaller and tell him he will be late leaving. This is simulated by you receiving the phone call you mentioned.

What the signaller SHOULD then do is ask the driver if he wants the signal ahead of him replaced to danger (assuming it is off), and then he should tell the driver to call him when the train is ready to depart. The signaller then attends to other matters until he gets the call from the driver to say the train is ready to go.

The way I usually deal with this in Simsig is to leave the train sat there and not worry about it until the driver calls me to let me know he's ready to go. I don't worry about sticky notes to remind me - it just sits in the back of my mind.

Also, I always replace the signal to danger if the option is given to me - some trains end up sat there for ages with a route set for them which requires cancelling later, earning you a penalty and a call from a bemused driver.
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Re: Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 13:54 #9

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lazzer:
What the signaller SHOULD then do is ask the driver if he wants the signal ahead of him replaced to danger (assuming it is off)
Seems strange that the driver, not the signaller, is the one who is given the choice. What if the driver doesn't want the signal replaced but the signaller knows he can use the track ahead to set routes for other trains to bypass the stalled train if the signal is replaced?
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Re: Copy telephone call to Clipboard 16 Feb 2012 14:16 #10

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maxand wrote:
lazzer:
What the signaller SHOULD then do is ask the driver if he wants the signal ahead of him replaced to danger (assuming it is off)
Seems strange that the driver, not the signaller, is the one who is given the choice. What if the driver doesn't want the signal replaced but the signaller knows he can use the track ahead to set routes for other trains to bypass the stalled train if the signal is replaced?
The driver is always given the choice, because the driver should always be told if a signal is going to be replaced ahead of him IF HE IS IN A POSITION TO BE TOLD.

If the signaller is giving the driver a choice, then it means that the signaller is prepared, and able, to work around the problem if the driver says he doesn't want the signal put back to danger. However, if the driver says that the train will be there for some considerable time, then the signaller will tell the driver that the signal is going back on him, whether he likes it or not. I suppose the only exception to this is when the track ahead of the signal in question is plain line, and it makes no operational difference.
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