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TOPIC: West Midlands: impending box closures

West Midlands: impending box closures 11 Mar 2012 13:56 #1

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Hi all,

I gather that Section C notices have now been issued for the following boxes to close:

- Hartlebury Station (OWW, 131m 73ch)
- Kidderminster Junction (OWW, 135m 17ch)
- Churchill & Blakedown (OWW, 138m 51ch)
- Stourbridge Junction (OWW, 142m 25ch)
- Kingswinford South Jcn (KWD, 144m 33ch)

The closure is apparently scheduled to take place in August 2012 with control passing to Stourbridge Work Station in West Midlands Signalling Centre.

Interestingly, the signalbox.org site - from where the above information comes - says that the fringe boxes will be Droitwich Spa and Kidderminster Station [SVR]. I assume Kidderminster SVR is named as a fringe box for engines transferring from mainline metals onto SVR metals? Can't see why else it would be mentioned.

Could be an opportunity for an enlarged Saltley sim layout at some point in the future?

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Re: West Midlands: impending box closures 11 Mar 2012 14:33 #2

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DaveHarries wrote:
Interestingly, the signalbox.org site - from where the above information comes - says that the fringe boxes will be Droitwich Spa and Kidderminster Station [SVR]. I assume Kidderminster SVR is named as a fringe box for engines transferring from mainline metals onto SVR metals? Can't see why else it would be mentioned.

Well, if you look at the relevant topic on the signalbox site, where you've already posted, the details are all there.

www.signalbox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=...rminster+SVR&start=0
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Re: West Midlands: impending box closures 11 Mar 2012 15:43 #3

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DaveHarries wrote:

Could be an opportunity for an enlarged Saltley sim layout at some point in the future?

Dave

Saltley isnt the WMCC... Everything from Saltley is slowly moving over to the WMCC too.
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Re: West Midlands: impending box closures 11 Mar 2012 20:26 #4

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After Easter the only bit of railway left in Saltley PSB will be the cross city line to kings norton
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Re: West Midlands: impending box closures 11 Mar 2012 21:09 #5

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ledgero2 wrote:
DaveHarries wrote:

Could be an opportunity for an enlarged Saltley sim layout at some point in the future?

Dave

Saltley isnt the WMCC... Everything from Saltley is slowly moving over to the WMCC too.

i think dave was insinuating that now they are closed, there is no conflict of interest (not that there ever was) for including them in saltley, by the applying the "pure saltley PSB only" rule, you could have henley, shirley or bearley included
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Re: West Midlands: impending box closures 11 Mar 2012 22:00 #6

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DaveHarries wrote:
- Hartlebury Station (OWW, 131m 73ch)
- Kidderminster Junction (OWW, 135m 17ch)
- Churchill & Blakedown (OWW, 138m 51ch)

About time I say. I really see no point for those, especially Hartlebury and Blakedown.
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Re: West Midlands: impending box closures 11 Mar 2012 22:14 #7

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block posts for absolute block working? to maintain a service interval
"we apologise for the delay to the 09:21 Cross country service to newcastle....this is due to a delay" - Announcement, sheffield station
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Re: West Midlands: impending box closures 11 Mar 2012 22:52 #8

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Blakedown and Hartlebury both supervise level crossings, and the timetable would probably be unworkable without them as block posts at some points in the day.

The fringe to the SVR is due to the new layout at Kidderminster Junction where access to the Severn Valley will be signalled in both directions to full passenger standards, with a slotting arrangement between the two boxes for certain movements.
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Re: West Midlands: impending box closures 11 Mar 2012 23:11 #9

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Poshfc wrote:
DaveHarries wrote:
- Hartlebury Station (OWW, 131m 73ch)
- Kidderminster Junction (OWW, 135m 17ch)
- Churchill & Blakedown (OWW, 138m 51ch)

About time I say. I really see no point for those, especially Hartlebury and Blakedown.

So a goods loop, reversing siding and connection to the SVR at Kidder Jn have "no point"?
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Re: West Midlands: impending box closures 12 Mar 2012 19:18 #10

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Danny252 wrote:
Poshfc wrote:
DaveHarries wrote:
- Hartlebury Station (OWW, 131m 73ch)
- Kidderminster Junction (OWW, 135m 17ch)
- Churchill & Blakedown (OWW, 138m 51ch)

About time I say. I really see no point for those, especially Hartlebury and Blakedown.

So a goods loop, reversing siding and connection to the SVR at Kidder Jn have "no point"?

I didn't actually mean Kidderminster as I know that controls a decent area. However, as I did see today, they are upgrading both crossing at Hartlebury and Blakedown, I assume this is something to do with it?
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