Hello, I am thinking of writing a fictional TT for Kings Cross, but although it would be fictional it will also be realistic. So I am wondering if some people in this great community could share some expert knowledge. The types of information that I require I will list below:

• What are the work practices of drivers for differnent TOCs (e.g. when do driver change overs occur and do they slow trains down, how long does a driver drive for before a break and what sort of shifts are common(and uncommon but still exsist))
• What is the capacity of the depots (and sidings) on the sim and not on the sim but that are used by the TOCs that appear in the sim (Nene Valley Sidings - FCC)
• What restrictions are imposed on train movements during the day and at night by Network rail apart from planned enginnering works
• How long do trains need to turn around when they terminate (I understand that this will depend on the train)
• What types and amounts of trains operate at the depots and sidings that are used by the TOCs featured on the Sim (those I have explained above)

This is a quick list that I have created and the list will grow has I think of things to ask. I do not expect quick answers has the questions may take time to answer.

Thank you for any help you may be able to provide.

Hello, I am thinking of writing a fictional TT for Kings Cross, but although it would be fictional it will also be realistic. So I am wondering if some people in this great community could share some expert knowledge. The types of information that I require I will list below:

• What are the work practices of drivers for differnent TOCs (e.g. when do driver change overs occur and do they slow trains down, how long does a driver drive for before a break and what sort of shifts are common(and uncommon but still exsist))
• What is the capacity of the depots (and sidings) on the sim and not on the sim but that are used by the TOCs that appear in the sim (Nene Valley Sidings - FCC)
• What restrictions are imposed on train movements during the day and at night by Network rail apart from planned enginnering works
• How long do trains need to turn around when they terminate (I understand that this will depend on the train)
• What types and amounts of trains operate at the depots and sidings that are used by the TOCs featured on the Sim (those I have explained above)

This is a quick list that I have created and the list will grow has I think of things to ask. I do not expect quick answers has the questions may take time to answer.

Thank you for any help you may be able to provide.

hornby0729 wrote:
I have just realised that this sounds the same has the other bullet point futher up the list. What I mean is: In normal situations how much stock and what types of stock are stored in the depots and sidings and what services are these trains used for?

FCC run
41 x 313s
40 x 365s
12 x 317s
5 x 322s (but have some more expected December 2010)
Which all run on the GN lines out of KX.

Primary depot is Hornsey (suggest you have a look at Google Earth for size)
Around 9 lines of storage at Welwyn, each can take 8 car set- 2 or 3 at Hertford each line taking at least a 6 car and some storage at Letchworth and Cambridge- don't know the capacity and quite a bit at Peterborough.

East Coast run the 91 Mk4 sets and some HSTs- HSTs are based at Leeds, I believe, but there is space at Bounds Green for something like 10 91 sets at least (Google earth maybe assist).

Hull Trains and Grand Central are not based in the area but each have 4 or 5 trains to play with.

Peter

One East Coast HST set stores in Bounds Green on Saturday night as it runs an early morning service off KingsX in the morning.

Grand Central have about two Class 180 Adelantes and the rest are Class 43 HST Power Cars with a rake of Mk3 carriages and often, if not almost always, use Ferme Park for overnight storage. Also don't forget about their two different services, the northern one to Sunderland and the "West Riding" one to Bradford.

I've previously seen a First Hull Trains Class 180 parked up overnight outside the main shed at Bounds Green.
Peter Bennet wrote:
Class 321s, not 322s. In-fact 321/4s if I recall correctly.

Peterborough nene : about 12-15 lines most can hold 12 car units

Thank you for your help, however I think that it may be best for me to ask the questions one at a time. So here is my first question.

Where are Grand central trains stored over night, how many in each location, when do they leave the depots/sidings in the Morning (Roughly)?

UKTrainMan wrote:
At least one is in there per night however with the new West Riding service they may now be storing two per night.

I'll have to see if I can obtain the information for their ECS workings to/from Ferme Park CS.

First Hull Trains Class 180 units are now outbased at the First Great Western HSTD located at Old Oak Common, as the fitters/shunters there have previous with the class, and there is an ECS move (5H01 IIRC) in the morning (the evening return escapes me, but 5V97 rings a bell). Confusingly there is also a path available to/from Bounds Green, and also to/from Ferme Park, but these are only used on very rare occasions nowadays.

Ah thought I saw a 180 back at Old Oak last thursday when we were coming out of Padd on the way home. That explains that then.