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TOPIC: Sheffield 1983-1984

Sheffield 1983-1984 04 Feb 2010 11:42 #1

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I have just finished compiling a Sheffield 1983-1984 timetable. At present it is with NoisyNoel as he is adding some bits & pieces to it & once he has finished with it & we have tested it, it will then be uploaded for general release. This timetable will be further amended when the new version of Sheffield has been released. This timetable runs on the 1980s scenario. Freight activities on thsi timetable far outweigh the passenger & parcels traffic & as a result screen 6 is alot busier than in previous timetables. For those who enjoy playing Sheffield as I do, I am now currently doing a Sheffield 1981/82 timetable to follow on from this one. More info on that nearer the time of release. Not sure yet whether the 1983/84 timetable will be put on general release & then we do any alterations as people find issues that need correcting or we get some testers to test it first. Will have to discuss this with Noel. I have played it from 0000 - 0600 & that seems to be OK so far. Watch this space.
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Sheffield 1983-1984 04 Feb 2010 11:42 #2

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I have just finished compiling a Sheffield 1983-1984 timetable. At present it is with NoisyNoel as he is adding some bits & pieces to it & once he has finished with it & we have tested it, it will then be uploaded for general release. This timetable will be further amended when the new version of Sheffield has been released. This timetable runs on the 1980s scenario. Freight activities on thsi timetable far outweigh the passenger & parcels traffic & as a result screen 6 is alot busier than in previous timetables. For those who enjoy playing Sheffield as I do, I am now currently doing a Sheffield 1981/82 timetable to follow on from this one. More info on that nearer the time of release. Not sure yet whether the 1983/84 timetable will be put on general release & then we do any alterations as people find issues that need correcting or we get some testers to test it first. Will have to discuss this with Noel. I have played it from 0000 - 0600 & that seems to be OK so far. Watch this space.
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Sheffield 1983-1984 04 Feb 2010 19:03 #3

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Happy to test again for you if needed, let me know!
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Sheffield 1983-1984 05 Feb 2010 10:39 #4

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Thanks for the offer. Once NoisyNoel has finished doing what he is doing to this timetable & I know he was going to get Sacro to run his programme which highlights platdorm clashes. Once this has been done & I've got a few more 1ZXX's & 6ZXX's to add, then testers will be requested. Once this 1983-1984 timetable has been completed I will then finish off the 1991-1994 timetable I did. All the class 2 services in the 1983-1984 passenger & parcels WTT run wit6h specific headcodes throughout the whole day. The same is also the case in the 1981-1982 Section YE. Whereby the more up to date WTT's have a separate headcode for each individual train. For EG: All Sheffield - Chesterfield - Sheffield services are 2J55. All Sheffield - New Mills Central services are 2M85 & the return New Mills Central - Sheffield are 2E85. Therefore I've added'-A, -B, -C etc. To all class 2 services. The other variation I included is all the Doncaster Coal Trip services I've timetabled between Doncs Down Decoy - Silverwood Colliery - Doncs Down Decoy, so there is a fair amount of MGR trip workings between Silverwood Colliery & Hexthorpe Jn, plus the booked Scunthorpe CHP - Silverwood Colliery - Scunthorpe CHP services. The other thing to note when playing this timetable is the number of locos running between Tinsley TMD - Tinsley Yard - Tinsley TMD. At some points it is on a comtimuous basis. I've included all loco's on & off the TMD for all arrivals & departures from Tinsley Yard along with through services which are booked a loco change at Tinsley yard. I've played this timetable from 0000 - 0600 & screen 6 is alot busier than screen 2 around 0500-0600 time. One question to anyone out there who reads this. I suspect at this time most DMUs serving Sheffield station were fuelled & maintained at Darnal TMD. The section YE for 1983-1984 doesn't show any 5XXX from Darnall - Sheffield - Darnall, only on Saturday Only (SO) services. I've timetabled the DMUs & some locos on & off Sheffield HS. I would imagine in reality both instalations were used at this time. Does anyone know for definate as I'm not certain when Darnall TMD closed? As a guess I would have said mid to late 1980s.
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Sheffield 1983-1984 05 Feb 2010 11:02 #5

58050,

Sheffield Darnall closed as a wagon repair depot sometime in 1987.

Hope this helps.
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Sheffield 1983-1984 05 Feb 2010 14:39 #6

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Thanks for that Paul. I think then that in 1983-1984 Darnall TMD was still stabling & maintaining units there. Noel if you are reading this thread, whilst you are checking the platform clashes with the help of Sacro, one possible way to avoid certain platdorm clashes could be putting in ECS DMU moves from Darnall - Sheffield station as opposed to using Sheffield HS. This would free up P1A as well as P1B. Likewise in the evenings units could go to Darnall for fuelling & or maintenance. There are a couple of trip workings from Tinsley Yard to Darnall Sdgs during the 24 hour period. There are more ECS moves between Darnall Sdgs & Sheffield station in the 1981-1982 section 'YE' WTT. There are 3 afternoon/evening loco-hauled services from Leeds - Sheffield, whereby I've put a loco ex Sheffield HS - P5 & attach to the rear of the stock & the ECS then goes Top n' Tail to Woodburn Jn, whereby the west end loco goes LD to Sheffield HS & the the east end loco takes the stock into Darnall Sdgs & returns to Sheffield HS a short time later. If my memory serves me correctly I think there are 3 or Cl.31/4's which end up on Sheffield HS along with a couple of Cl.45/0s. As I am sure there must have been some mainline engines outstabled at Sheffield station as opposed to having all mainline locos stabled at Tinsley TMD.
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Sheffield 1983-1984 06 Feb 2010 08:33 #7

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Pascal,
Not a problem. There is a problem with the loco from orgreaves (0J03) but I'm gonna look into that as I think it's a sim bug. I've started work on the shunts, so shouldn't be long.
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Sheffield 1983-1984 06 Feb 2010 10:59 #8

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Noel I know about 0J03. I've altered it on the 1981-1982 timetable. Instead of the loco coming off Orgreaves Sdgs from the north end, send it out of the south end & reverse it at Treeton South, then route it to Tinsley TMD via Treeton Jn & Catcliffe Jn.
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Sheffield 1983-1984 03 Apr 2010 06:37 #9

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For those of you who don't yet already know Sheffield 1983-1984 has now been released & you'll find it on the downloads section. To run this timetable you must select 1980's scenario. Be warned this one is not too easy. It's the era of BR blue,no American engines or Sprinters. Freight certainly plays a big part in this timetable & screen 6 is exceptionally busy. All the Tinsley yard Trip dating from 1985 have been included as this was the nearest set I had to the date, with some slight destination alterations to one or two of them. Platforming of DMUs at Sheffield sorted out by NoisyNoel & even he found this difficult due to some of the turn arounds being quite long. There will be a second release in the future as NoisyNoel & I both intend to modify the MGR workings at Barrow Hill to make it slightly more realistic & use the 'Goods Lines' to stable trains instead of in this version where everything goes in & comes out of Barrow Hill RS. There are quite a number of '1ZXX's, these trains don't have allocated platforms at Sheffield due to them running on an ad-hoc basis & in reality would have been dealt with by the signaller & station staff where the trains appeared on the panel. I'm sure people will find some issues & 'Rules' that need adding so can you please post any comments or problems on this secton of the forum. There are 2 track circuit issues at the north end of Sheffield station in the moring. One occurs when 5E01 berths in DSS & 1E62 is in P1B & 4E05-2 is in P5. Loco off 5E01 forms 0M00 & blocks up north end of Sheffield station all on its own accord. The same thing occurs when 4M38-1 arrives in P2, the loco detaches as 0M38 & goes to DSS to collect the vans off 5E01 to attach to the front of 4M38-2. This timetable is busier than King's Cross at times so I've been told. So far I've only got up to 0700 in the morning. Anyway hope you enjoy it.
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Sheffield 1983-1984 04 Apr 2010 10:22 #10

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To anyone who downloads this timetable you need to go into the timetable via 'F4' key, select timetable & alter the platforms on 2 trains. 0E16 needs a change from P2 to P5 & also 3E16-1 from P2 - P5 as 5D71 occupies P2 until the shunt loco comes off Tinsley TMD & collects it. If I come across anymore changes I will post them here. I'm up to 06:11, if anyone has got further than me at present coul you please advise of any further issues. Hopefully whilst 3E16-1 is in P5 it won't block any other trains requiring that platform.
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