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| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 21/11/2014 at 21:24 #65703 | |
CTCThiago
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Hello All, I done some research on google and find this (early-stage) Signalling Simulator, if you guys want to take a look. I don't know who is the developer of this software, but is freeware and very simple (no much functions), it comes with an editor to build your own sim. Click Here Cheers, Thiago. Log in to reply |
| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 21/11/2014 at 21:40 #65705 | |
madaboutrains
307 posts |
It looks like a copy of Liverpool street sim
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| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 21/11/2014 at 22:35 #65706 | |
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CTCThiago
232 posts |
It is very close to Liv. St of the SimSig, it says on the description, based on Simsig Simulation Liv St. Me and some friends from the railway liked the design, we'll create some Sims (Signal Boxes), shame that don't have approach locking yet. Very interesting one. Thiago. Log in to reply |
| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 21/11/2014 at 22:57 #65708 | |
Steamer
3920 posts |
" said:It is very close to Liv. St of the SimSig, it says on the description, based on Simsig Simulation Liv St.Are Geoff and Co. aware of this? Sounds like a copyright issue... "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 21/11/2014 at 23:02 #65709 | |
Muzer
718 posts |
Although I disagree with the idea of copying sims directly like this given the hard work that was put in, given I highly doubt any code was copied, I'm not convinced there would be any copyright issue. I'm not a lawyer, of course, though. All that has been copied are facts (ie about the layout of Liverpool Street), which I don't believe are copyrightable.
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| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 21/11/2014 at 23:17 #65710 | |
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Steamer
3920 posts |
" said:Although I disagree with the idea of copying sims directly like this given the hard work that was put in, given I highly doubt any code was copied, I'm not convinced there would be any copyright issue. I'm not a lawyer, of course, though. All that has been copied are facts (ie about the layout of Liverpool Street), which I don't believe are copyrightable.It does sound like a breach of Section 1.2 of the License Agreement though: Quote: b) except expressly permitted by this Agreement and save to the extent and in the circumstances expressly required to be permitted by law, to rent, lease, sub-license, loan. copy, modify, adapt, merge, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or create derivative works based on the whole or any part of the Software or its associated documentation or use, reproduce or deal in the Software or any part of it in any way(my emphasis) I'm not a lawyer either though, so I'll leave it at that. Hopefully Geoff or a mod will clarify the situation. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 21/11/2014 at 23:17 by Steamer Log in to reply |
| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 22/11/2014 at 00:02 #65711 | |
GeoffM
6280 posts |
Where does it say "based on SimSig"? If they do derive their information from SimSig then perhaps we need to put in deliberate errors like on maps  Imitation is a form of flattery I guess. Good luck to them if they manage to progress it to a realistic and playable level. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 22/11/2014 at 00:28 #65712 | |
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Muzer
718 posts |
Indeed - I think the intent of the project as a whole - to create an open-source extensible signalling simulator - is a good one. Just a little shame they've left a bit of a sour taste by (what appears to be) copying two SimSig sims for the example data.
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| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 22/11/2014 at 04:45 #65716 | |
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CTCThiago
232 posts |
" said:Where does it say "based on SimSig"? If they do derive their information from SimSig then perhaps we need to put in deliberate errors like on mapsJust to clarify the incident: 1st: This is the message on the software TS2 Liv. St:  2nd: Not here to compare this software to SimSig or trying to cause this bad feeling on the group, i just created the post to share this new simulator, as i've done with Metrosim earlier, but i think it's better to stop sharing another simulators here on Simsig website (forum). 3rd: Hope you guys don't take it as a bad intention of my part. Regards, Thiago. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 22/11/2014 at 17:14 #65721 | |
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Muzer
718 posts |
No, I'm glad you posted it - I will have a look when I get a bit more free time, it'd be nice to work on this sort of code. I know you weren't trying to stir anything up!
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| TS2 Train Signalling Simulator 22/11/2014 at 17:42 #65722 | |
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GeoffM
6280 posts |
" said:" said:Ah, thanks. My name in lights!Where does it say "based on SimSig"? If they do derive their information from SimSig then perhaps we need to put in deliberate errors like on mapsJust to clarify the incident:  :blush:
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