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Timetable Help 12/07/2018 at 10:03 #110200
Lagertoe
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I wonder if someone could please tell me where I am going wrong. I am trying to path a light engine from Stewarts Lane to Waterloo via Clapham Jn. I have pathed it via platform 6 to reverse. The timetable path I have used validates but when it arrives in the platform the ARS set the route toward Waterloo but the I get a standing at signal message for the platform starting signal and when I manually reverse the engine I am told I have wrongly routed it. I have used the following path
Location Arr Dep Path Plt Line
Longhedge Jn 03/53
Clapham Jn (Windsor) 03:56 03:57 6 WFL
West London Jn 03/58h WFL WL
Queenstown Road 04/00 WF WF
Waterloo.
The option to reverse in platform three or the carriage siding do not appear to be available either
Any help or advice would greatly appreciated

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Timetable Help 12/07/2018 at 11:05 #110201
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Mark why are you sending the loco that way? Locos to & from Stewarts Lane T&RSMD in that timetable I sent via Linford Street Jn & into Waterloo that way as per the BR South Western Light Locomotive WTT. Unlless the loco is booked to pick up stock in Clapham Jn CS they wouldn't run via Clapham Jn.
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Timetable Help 12/07/2018 at 11:22 #110202
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Further to my last post, I just opened up the Wimbledon sim & loaded the timetable(it's one of my tts BTW which Mark has kindly offered to complete due to me being bogged down with other SimSig tt projects, so no one else will have this tt at present). Mark take a look at 0V09 08:34 EWD LD Stewarts Lane T&RSMD - London Waterloo (LA Cl.50)which enters on the Up Waterloo at 08.37 or 0W50 05:33 TO LD London Waterloo - Stewarts Lane T&RSMD (SL Cl.73/0) which runs in the opposite direction. That's how you timetable loco movements between Stewarts Lane T&RSMD - Waterloo - Stewarts Lane T&RSMD.
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Timetable Help 12/07/2018 at 11:38 #110203
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If it’s one of your older era timetables would the Linford Street Flyover have been open then? It was only put in for Eurostar....
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Timetable Help 12/07/2018 at 12:44 #110205
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James there's stacks of older era timetables that have to be altered to run on various sims whereby the older era hasn't been created unfortunately. This one is no exception. However I don't recall during the early 1980s locos off the Exeter St. Davids - Waterloo - Exeter St. Davids running LD to & from Stewarts Lane TMD via Clapham Jn. I accept what you say is correct about the flyover, but if the tt data sending the LDs that way validates then there no point in trying to get things to validate by timetabling them via Clapham Jn. The loco diagrams for the period don't show them going via Clapham Jn nor does the BR SW Division light loco WTT. There jas been some alterations required to make this timetable work on the layout that is currently the case on Wimbledon. Some of the Int'l platforms have been used asd holding sdgs as back in the day there were a number of sdgs at Waterloo on the western side where locos were stabled. Maybe at some point in the future Geoff will update the Waterloo area of the Wimbledon sim as I sent him some signalling notices of the Waterloo area during the BR era.
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Timetable Help 12/07/2018 at 15:28 #110206
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58050 in post 110205 said:
James there's stacks of older era timetables that have to be altered to run on various sims whereby the older era hasn't been created unfortunately. This one is no exception. However I don't recall during the early 1980s locos off the Exeter St. Davids - Waterloo - Exeter St. Davids running LD to & from Stewarts Lane TMD via Clapham Jn. I accept what you say is correct about the flyover, but if the tt data sending the LDs that way validates then there no point in trying to get things to validate by timetabling them via Clapham Jn. The loco diagrams for the period don't show them going via Clapham Jn nor does the BR SW Division light loco WTT. There jas been some alterations required to make this timetable work on the layout that is currently the case on Wimbledon. Some of the Int'l platforms have been used asd holding sdgs as back in the day there were a number of sdgs at Waterloo on the western side where locos were stabled. Maybe at some point in the future Geoff will update the Waterloo area of the Wimbledon sim as I sent him some signalling notices of the Waterloo area during the BR era.
The point surely is to get things as accurate as possible - Lagertoe identified an issue in doing so and reported it on the forum for assistance; you suggested a less prototypical solution using a flyover that didn’t exist - the better solution would be to fix the sim surely?

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Timetable Help 12/07/2018 at 17:38 #110210
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That's as maybe James, but doing it the way Mark has done it isn't prototypical as the locos to & from Stewarts Lane TMD never went via Clapham Jn. Furthermore using the flyover the tt data validates, but using Clapham Jn it doesn't & we could be waiting months for the developer to add in the missing paths or whatever else is required subject to Geoff's workload. I'd rather get the timetable to a state where users can play it & once the sim has been updated to cater for the era then it will be easy for the tt to be amended. Laso what you don't appreciate is the fact that I started this timetable before 2016 & because of writing timetables for developers the tt wasn't finished. Doing it the way Mark suggests could end up taking even longer as some developers of sims don't release updates every week. The main pointof Mark doing the est of the timetable was to get the thing done it a state where it could be released. So as far as I'm concerned if the LD movements validate via the flyover then that's the way I'd do it instead of waiting weeks or months for the issue to be resolved by sending the LD movements via Clapham Jn which in itself isn't protottypical of the period so your arguement isn't valid at all as far as I'm concerned.
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Timetable Help/ Possible bug Wimbledon Sim 21/07/2018 at 09:31 #110351
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I have managed to work out the problem it appears to be bug with the SIM itself . Trains timetabled to enter at location Stewarts Lane/Factory Jn do not update in the timetable and will always show their location as Down Ludgate/Factory Jn on the train list.
So any activity's after this location will never be carried out.
The ARS knows what the train is doing though

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