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More Shunting Issues At Newbury 10/11/2018 at 19:00 #113228
Phil-jmw
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Owing to having a train in Newbury Pfm.2 delayed waiting a replacement driver, I decided to stop 3A27 (1985 TT) on the Up Westbury for the loco to detach, shunt to Pfm.3, attach 5A27 vans and then rejoin his train on the Up Westbury before going forward to Reading. All went well until I tried to set a route from R491 GPL Sig for the loco and vans to set back onto its train on the Up Westbury. The route failed to call and I got a message stating "Subroute locked in opposite direction". It is possible to set a route R491 - R492 with the Up Westbury TC through the station clear, is it genuinely not possible to set a route with the TC occupied? Should the subroute remain locked or is it a bug?


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Phil.

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More Shunting Issues At Newbury 10/11/2018 at 23:38 #113229
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This seems like a highly unusual move (in which case, key the points and talk the driver past), although can confirm that the route does not call in described situation (hence if it's a bug, it's not a one off - though my personal guess would be the interlocking simply not allowing the move...).
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More Shunting Issues At Newbury 11/11/2018 at 00:21 #113230
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I did key the points 'Normal' and talk him by 491.
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More Shunting Issues At Newbury 11/11/2018 at 11:12 #113234
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Phil-jmw in post 113228 said:
Owing to having a train in Newbury Pfm.2 delayed waiting a replacement driver, I decided to stop 3A27 (1985 TT) on the Up Westbury for the loco to detach, shunt to Pfm.3, attach 5A27 vans and then rejoin his train on the Up Westbury before going forward to Reading. All went well until I tried to set a route from R491 GPL Sig for the loco and vans to set back onto its train on the Up Westbury. The route failed to call and I got a message stating "Subroute locked in opposite direction". It is possible to set a route R491 - R492 with the Up Westbury TC through the station clear, is it genuinely not possible to set a route with the TC occupied? Should the subroute remain locked or is it a bug?


Regards,

Phil.
There is no 491 signal. Do you mean 488? Just so I can check the correct control table before confirming/reporting the issue.

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More Shunting Issues At Newbury 11/11/2018 at 12:26 #113237
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JamesN in post 113234 said:
Phil-jmw in post 113228 said:
Owing to having a train in Newbury Pfm.2 delayed waiting a replacement driver, I decided to stop 3A27 (1985 TT) on the Up Westbury for the loco to detach, shunt to Pfm.3, attach 5A27 vans and then rejoin his train on the Up Westbury before going forward to Reading. All went well until I tried to set a route from R491 GPL Sig for the loco and vans to set back onto its train on the Up Westbury. The route failed to call and I got a message stating "Subroute locked in opposite direction". It is possible to set a route R491 - R492 with the Up Westbury TC through the station clear, is it genuinely not possible to set a route with the TC occupied? Should the subroute remain locked or is it a bug?


Regards,

Phil.
There is no 491 signal. Do you mean 488? Just so I can check the correct control table before confirming/reporting the issue.
There is James. R491 is the GPL on the Up Westbury at Newbury East for setting back along the Up Westbury towards R492 GPL, into Pfm.2 and into Pfm.3.

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More Shunting Issues At Newbury 11/11/2018 at 13:35 #113238
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So the first issue is it's numbered incorrectly in the sim - it should be R488 per attached diagram.

I'll have a look through the control tables later this evening.


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More Shunting Issues At Newbury 11/11/2018 at 15:38 #113242
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So to confirm - the route from R488 (sim R491) to R492 requires either track PB (sim NCD) clear; or PB occupied for 90 seconds following a route being set to R863 - in other words the subroute under the train should drop out after 90 seconds.

Mantis 22186 for the subroute not dropping out.
Mantis 22187 for the signal mis-numbered.

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More Shunting Issues At Newbury 11/11/2018 at 16:33 #113243
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JamesN in post 113242 said:
So to confirm - the route from R488 (sim R491) to R492 requires either track PB (sim NCD) clear; or PB occupied for 90 seconds following a route being set to R863 - in other words the subroute under the train should drop out after 90 seconds.

Mantis 22186 for the subroute not dropping out.
Mantis 22187 for the signal mis-numbered.
THanks James.

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