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London Victoria 08/02/2011 at 20:53 #2365
Rashan 170
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Anyone know if a London Victoria could be done ???
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London Victoria 08/02/2011 at 20:53 #13485
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Anyone know if a London Victoria could be done ???
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London Victoria 09/02/2011 at 00:16 #13486
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It's not on the list that can't be done, but it's also a very big and complicated area and the developers are very busy...
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London Victoria 09/02/2011 at 08:33 #13489
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There are at least 10 simulations in development or beta (not yet available for download) at the moment, maybe even more.
(I am not part of the team so don't know everything that's happening there)

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London Victoria 09/02/2011 at 14:25 #13495
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yhh but still sounds like a good area to play on but will wait unitl they suggest something
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London Victoria 09/02/2011 at 19:45 #13501
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I think there are some perhaps better simulations than London Victoria on their way to us. I reckon that London Liverpool Street ("LivSt"and Waterloo are already comparable to London Victoria in terms of level of business.

That said, note that JamesN said
JamesN said:
it's also a very big and complicated area

meaning that it may not seem so good for some players who may find it too busy/complex for their liking.

Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for.
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London Victoria 09/02/2011 at 20:25 #13502
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Victoria is in 2 halves, which are actually different jobs. The "Central" side, controlling the Brighton-side lines (Plat's 9-19 at Vic), and the "Eastern" side, controlling the Chatham-side lines (Plat's 1-8 at Vic). If Victoria was ever developed as a SimSig, I would expect 2 separate sims.

As JamesN and UKTrainMan mention above, the simulations would be large (Central = 5 panels, Eastern = 6 panels) and rather complex with very busy panels and some very tight timings between trains. Not for the novice SimSig-er on their own!

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London Victoria 10/02/2011 at 13:19 #13531
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mfcooper said:
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Not for the novice SimSig-er on their own!

Which probably means Kurt is already working on it...


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London Victoria 10/02/2011 at 17:55 #13550
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UKTrainMan said:
I think there are some perhaps better simulations than London Victoria on their way to us. I reckon that London Liverpool Street ("LivSt"and Waterloo are already comparable to London Victoria in terms of level of business.
Thanks for the feedback we'll not bother with this one then.

Peter

Moderator: Edited to make quote section correct (ie: not this entire post!)

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London Victoria 10/02/2011 at 20:41 #13556
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Ahh ok i thought London Victoria controlled all platforms I didn't know they separate sim sigs.

soo there any chance It could be done or not ?
Unless the developer wants to construct an easy panel sim for Victoria

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London Victoria 10/02/2011 at 21:32 #13557
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Yes it/they could be done (and for all I know it / they could be under development at the moment).

However, given the current workload the developers are ploughing through, if it is not on the current agenda then it is unlikely to happen soon. I am sure that the developers will note the request, but even if one of them decided that work on the sim(s) would start tomorrow, I don't expect you would see a useable product for at least 5 years because of the complexity.

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London Victoria 10/02/2011 at 21:33 #13558
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Rashan 170 said:
Ahh ok i thought London Victoria controlled all platforms I didn't know they separate sim sigs.
It's not separate SimSig's - it is not ANY SimSig. The two halves are different real-life jobs but are in the same room in the Clapham Junction area.

Rashan 170 said:
soo there any chance It could be done or not?
It is not on the "Areas that cannot be simulated" list, so in theory it can. However, lots and lots and lots of data would be required, and also a developer who has no project(s) that they are working on. This is rather unlikely.

Rashan 170 said:
Unless the developer wants to construct an easy panel sim for Victoria
There isn't an easy panel at Victoria!

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London Victoria 10/02/2011 at 21:35 #13559
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Alright then thanks for that
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London Victoria 11/02/2011 at 02:51 #13573
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Peter-test said:
UKTrainMan said:
I think there are some perhaps better simulations than London Victoria on their way to us. I reckon that London Liverpool Street ("LivSt"and Waterloo are already comparable to London Victoria in terms of level of business.
Thanks for the feedback we'll not bother with this one then.

Peter
Sorry if my post may have been misunderstood - please allow me to clarify;

As many will probably already know from what is on the forum or Wiki...Birmingham New Street, Saltley, Derby, Euston, London Bridge, The Three Bridges Trio (Croydon, Gatwick, Brighton), NE Scot, Lewes, Lancing and possibly others I have missed are already in development.

I deliberately mentioned London Liverpool Street and London Waterloo in my previous post as they are also busy London Terminus stations like London Victoria is. London King's Cross is also a London Terminus station. Whilst I should perhaps be more interested in simulations near to me (what with me being a Londoner), for some reason I'm, at the moment at least, finding myself more interested on what else is on the way (as mentioned above) than London Victoria. Don't get me wrong though, I'm sure if London Victoria was developed and subsequently released I would certainly play it....or at least try to play it to the best of my abilities.

Hopefully that clarifies it. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Sometimes I hate having learning disabilities....

Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for.
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London Victoria 11/04/2011 at 16:11 #14984
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kbarber said:
Which probably means Kurt is already working on it...
Are we forgetting London Bridge, what is (I think) further in development and will be a "Multi-only" sim? All those who would like to see Victoria should keep an eye out on London Bridge.

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London Victoria 11/04/2011 at 23:42 #15008
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Sam Tugwell said:
kbarber said:
Which probably means Kurt is already working on it...
Are we forgetting London Bridge, what is (I think) further in development and will be a "Multi-only" sim? All those who would like to see Victoria should keep an eye out on London Bridge.
Why would any sim be "Multi-only". It all depends on the abitliy of the user as to whether you can play it single handed or not

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London Victoria 12/04/2011 at 10:36 #15022
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Noisynoel said:
It all depends on the abitliy of the user as to whether you can play it single handed or not


and on what you can do whilst paused!

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London Victoria 12/04/2011 at 11:44 #15025
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GoochyB said:
Noisynoel said:
It all depends on the abitliy of the user as to whether you can play it single handed or not


and on what you can do whilst paused!
If only there was a pause button in real life!

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London Victoria 12/04/2011 at 12:23 #15026
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But SimSig still has a go-slow setting (half-speed)!
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London Victoria 12/04/2011 at 12:32 #15027
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Noisynoel said:
If only there was a pause button in real life!

Indeed!
But as has been noted elsewhere, in real life one person would not be responsible for the entire area covered by one sim.

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London Victoria 12/04/2011 at 17:26 #15039
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... and that's one reason I added ARS to Edinburgh, aids solo play.

Peter

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London Victoria 12/04/2011 at 18:06 #15042
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Whilst not wishing to promote others, Sigcent has a Victoria Central simulation if you want to guage how busy it can be.
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London Victoria 17/04/2011 at 10:10 #15165
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Noisynoel said:
Why would any sim be "Multi-only". It all depends on the abitliy of the user as to whether you can play it single handed or not
Fair point well made. Ill have to try it myself now that youve suggested it! PS (do you know if there will be shunter Noel in this one at Hither Green?)

"Signalman Exeter"
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London Victoria 17/04/2011 at 12:48 #15166
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London Victoria is two separate panels even though they are all house in the same bulding. You have Victoria C and Victoria SE. I can confirm that the R&D team have visited the location with the view to doing a simulation sometime in the distant future when time is available so please be very very patient
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London Victoria 17/08/2013 at 09:57 #48528
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Victoria Eastern may not be as busy as first thought. The train frequency is certainly not as high as London Bridge area for example. ARS would simplify matters with basically 4 lines from Swanley Shortlands then diverting into the Catford Loop and the mainline via Beckenham Jcn. Freight movements in a late 80's early 90's timetable would be mainly through inter regional services with Stewarts Lane TMD & Battersea aggregates sidings.
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