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one wish 23/11/2009 at 01:10 #4413
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BTW, maybe I should point out something.

I'm not an admin of the site. I'm most willing to fiddle around with the icons and whatnots but it will need one of the admins of the site to actually change the original Agora/Joomla files for the ones I've modified so the world can actually see them in use.

At the moment, it would appear Clive, Kurt and Peter are the admins of the site so it's up to them to consider implementing any of these images on the site.

Regards all (I'm off to sleep)

Nicholas

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one wish 23/11/2009 at 11:41 #4432
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For the more T-shirty types:

(JPG)


(GIF)


Hmmmm, not MY cup of tea though!

NR

Edit 1: Background could be made transparent in GIF (or in the JPG, the same as the forum background which would work until it gets changed!).

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one wish 24/11/2009 at 16:44 #4475
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I've had a dig around and I can't find the location of the default image. I can find what looks like a pointer but I can't work down to where it's pointing to.

Peter

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one wish 24/11/2009 at 17:30 #4481
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Peter, which of the images are you refering to? Maybe I can help you trace the location of the file (I've got Agora 3.0.07 downloaded - not installed).

NR

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one wish 24/11/2009 at 17:56 #4484
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It's probably that I don't have all the permissions but here goes.

In 'Options Avitars' is says Upload Directory 'components/com_agora/img/pre_avatars' so I'm guessing that the default is there somewhere but I can't get there.

I have a 'components' option but there is nothing obvious under it.

I wonder if we put the thing in the WIKI and pointed it at that? Provided I save the line above I guess a bit of fiddling would resolve that question.

Peter

No that just turns everyone's to default- so it must be the location of the bespoke avitars.

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one wish 24/11/2009 at 18:16 #4488
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Do you have FTP access to the site?
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one wish 24/11/2009 at 18:50 #4493
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Updated NoAvatar (version 4) as a JPG which is what appears to be in use in the forum pages.



Peter, to replace the standard image I would try the following.

Download the JPG and rename as "noavatar.jpg" (all lowercase).
If FTP access is possible, upload the file to

[indent]/components/com_agora/img/pre_avatars [/indent]

replacing the file there (you may wish to download the original first, or rename it). I have it on disk in case you need it back.

In theory that should replace all the avatars for those who haven't chosen/uploaded an alternate one.

Regards,

NR

Edit1: PD to test if the file has been properly uploaded you can open the following in a new browser window

http://www.SimSig.co.uk/components/com_agora/img/pre_avatars/noavatar.jpg

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one wish 24/11/2009 at 20:31 #4499
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I used to have an FTP program somewhere, I'll see if I can find it but the I'm not sure what to do....

Peter

Can't find it as such but it appears Delphi has some sort of ftp capability. I think at this point I'll email Geoff for instructions.

Peter

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one wish 24/11/2009 at 20:52 #4501
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Peter

If you use Firefox as your browser, there is a FireFTP add-on that works well enough.

JG

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one wish 24/11/2009 at 21:21 #4503
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Peter, if you're running windows you can use the inbuilt program (it's text mode though)

Start | Run
FTP

At the window:

OPEN www.SimSig.co.uk You get prompted for user and password
TYPE BIN
CD /components/com_agora/img/pre_avatars
RENAME noavatar.jpg noavatar_original.jpg
LCD c:xxxxxx (Replace with whatever drive:folder you've the JPG in on your PC)
PUT noavatar.jpg
CLOSE
QUIT

Alternatively check out this couple of graphical FTP progs at TuCows

http://www.tucows.com/preview/195124?q=FTP
http://www.tucows.com/preview/195147?q=FTP Good but 7.5 Meg download

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NR

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one wish 26/11/2009 at 00:40 #4547
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Hi Nicholas,

unfortunately for us mortals some of the required directories are 'No access'

Geoff M almost certainly will be able to change the status of the 'img' directory so that he can replace the buttons and avatars. The top image directory is currently accessible and images 1.jpg, 2.jpg etc. can be changed easily.

Ken

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one wish 26/11/2009 at 15:57 #4584
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Geoff and Nicholas,

these are the latest offerings as icons/jpgs etc for the site.


As a top image (2.jpg) for testing.


As a replacement for the default avatar.


As replacements for the most used round icons.

Just suggestions... from Tallington and nroberts
any more anyone? Especially top images!

Ken

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one wish 26/11/2009 at 16:19 #4587
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Ken/Nicholas

Just looking at the icons, do we have to stick with the circular indicators for the topic identifiers. The more I look at the existing forum, the more clunky the indicators look. Can't remember for sure what the old forum used but was not one of the indicators for new postings the text "NEW" or "UPDATED" on a yellow splash background.

Please don't think this is any criticism of what has been done - it's just the usual of ask for one thing, decide you don't like it and ask for something else!

JG

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one wish 26/11/2009 at 16:23 #4588
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John,

that's precisely why we are putting them up - to stimulate ideas and within size reasons 'anything' is possible.

Just didn't want to go too far first time!

(and there was no point in doing too much if Geoff can't stick them in the right directories as some are locked. We know the 'top' images CAN be changed and we can have many!)

Ken

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one wish 26/11/2009 at 19:59 #4602
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JG,

To follow up on Ken's response, this first "batch" was maybe more of an experiment to ensure that it can be done and how to go about it.

Undoubtedly (as I mentioned a few posts back) these icons were mainly cobbled together just to add text as per you request (back on page one! =))

As far as I've been able to gather, we are limited to images which are 48 pixels wide and 48 pixels tall. These images CAN have transparent backgrounds since they're in .PNG (Portable Network Graphics) format.

I've never been too much of an artistic person so I limited myself to fiddle around and try and somewhat improve what we had. I'm quite willing to help out if anyone has any other suggestions for the design of the icons.

After today and tomorrow I'll have some more time available (tomorrow's my end of year and being a teacher you can guess what that means in terms of paperwork!) and I'll look into designing some more stuff. Feel free to suggest and/or design your own.

In the mean time, I think the idea is to test the actual going "on-line" with these new ones to confirm it's viable. I'm sure (if admins are agreeable) that there will be no problem if better options come up (and are generally accepted) to later change them over.

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Nicholas

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one wish 26/11/2009 at 20:30 #4604
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Done - except the top image which was too small and tiled itself. Stretching wouldn't have looked good. Can you redo the image as 957px × 170px please?
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one wish 26/11/2009 at 21:02 #4605
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Geoff,

you most likely got the mini version (the picture in the topic).

The original is 957 x 170 at:
http://www.SimSig.co.uk/components/com_agora/img/members/125/tornado3.jpg

The New Hot was to replace the New/Active which is the only regular one used that doesn't appear to have been replaced (yet).

The pages DO need refreshing to get all of these updates viewable!

The SimSig Avatar is far better now, I think!

Regards,
Ken

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one wish 26/11/2009 at 21:15 #4606
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Geoff, Icons looking fine!

If anyone is getting the old icons, they may need to either refresh the page or restart the browser (not the PC!) so as to clear the browser cache.

Regards,

Nicholas

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one wish 26/11/2009 at 21:22 #4607
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Geoff,

Default avatar came up fine as well.

Regards,

NR

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one wish 27/11/2009 at 02:23 #4613
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Geoff,

In your attempts yesterday (still today here in Argentina) did you try changing the favincon.ico file for the default site icon? (the one that appears on the favourites menu and the browser tabs)

I'm still getting the old square with diagonals.

As for the top banner, I can only still see 1.jpg (the composite of panel, trackwork and King's cross 91's lineup) and 2.jpg (the mountain scene).

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Nicholas

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one wish 27/11/2009 at 07:47 #4620
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Nicholas,

this is the link to your favicon zip file for Geoff to look at.

http://www.SimSig.co.uk/components/com_agora/img/members/191/favicon-version-2.zip

This is one I knocked up from an image - the image is in png format but will need converting to ico. Just click on them to get actual size. The favicon is the tiny one on the URL and Tab title boxes above!



When he tried to overlay 2.jpg he used the mini version of the Tornado file not the full width/height one.

http://www.SimSig.co.uk/components/com_agora/img/members/125/tornado3.jpg

Hopefully he will do that next time along with the 'New Hot' icon which hasn't changed on my screen yet.

http://www.SimSig.co.uk/components/com_agora/img/members/125/icon-newhot-version-4.png
Ken

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one wish 27/11/2009 at 12:24 #4625
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Ken

Quite right about the new-hot. I didn't have any topics yesterday evening in this state to check. I did see the others thought and (incorrectly) supposed they'd all been changed.

I'll convert the favicon and upload it.

NR

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one wish 27/11/2009 at 13:07 #4628
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Thanks Nicholas,

I was just doing it:-

favicon.zip

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one wish 27/11/2009 at 13:26 #4629
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I've "pulled" the SimSig logo from the sims and also put it up. This one is in 32x32 size.

The RAR'ed .ico file (Click me!)

The JPG version of same (so it can be seen in the post)


I've also "pulled" the green icon with the lightning bolt (which I don't like too much). If wanted I'll upload the .ICO version.

This is the JPG:


I've tested using this 32x32 icon in: Firefox (3.5.5), Internet Explorer 7.0.5730.13 and Apple Safari 3.2.3 on a live site and all display the icon perfectly in the address bar and the tabs. Check the provisional site at cpem17.com.ar if you wish (I'll be taking it down later in the evening).

As per http://www.w3.org/2005/10/howto-favicon the icon could actually be GIF or PNG as well (That means transparencies!=) - Ooops probably pointless in an icon this small :/) and can be either 16x16 or 32x32. Wikipedia says 64x64 is also valid but I'd prefer to believe W3C


Regards,

Nicholas

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one wish 27/11/2009 at 16:32 #4631
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It would appear that the 32x32 icons still are made to fit in the 16x16 space in the URL and Tabs.
I checked out www.cpem17.com.ar and then used zoom to see if they were any clearer but not on my screen - 1280x800 FF3.5.5 WinXp standard font

Ken

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