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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 22/05/2011 at 19:44 #3077
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For anyone who downloads this timetable please remember to use the 1980s era layout for this timetable.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 22/05/2011 at 19:44 #15977
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For anyone who downloads this timetable please remember to use the 1980s era layout for this timetable.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 23/05/2011 at 16:21 #16007
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Whilst having a solo session on this timetable there are a couple of routing issues with the durst couple of shunt moves by Frodingham No.1 Pilot(FHP1). Until the routing issue has been sorted I would suggest players just abandon route or 'bypass' route & then re-apply timetable to that trip once the move has passed the location causing the routing problem.
For those eagle eyed players 6D97-1 which appears from Holton Le Moor & originates from Gainsborough Lea Road Oil Terminal. The 6D97 part of the train isn't in the timetable due to the in-abilty to start a train from Gainsborough Lea Road Oil Terminal as the respected locations are missing from the location list. This will be rectified in due course. Also have noticed that 0M11 LD Immingham TMD - Lindsey Oil Ref. may appear after 6M11 Lindsey Oil Ref. - Colwick Rectory Jn has departed from Lindsey Oil Ref. despite there being a rule in place for this train. For some reason the rule doesn't always seem to work. Hopefully this will also be resolved. Many thanks & sorry for any problerms this may cause whilst playing this timetable.

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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 23/05/2011 at 17:57 #16009
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When will this tt be in the downloads section?
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 23/05/2011 at 18:00 #16010
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Well I submitted it yesterday evening for the Administrators to check it & then upload it. Your guess is as good as mine, I suppose it's subject to when the administrators have time to deal with it. PM me your e-mail address & I'll e-mail you a copy of itif you like.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 23/05/2011 at 18:18 #16011
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Sent e-mail add and thanx
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 24/05/2011 at 08:01 #16018
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Now in downloads section, looking good
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 24/05/2011 at 14:06 #16029
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For those of you playing this timetable, just spotted that both 7Z01 & 7Z02 track machine transit moves from Sleaford - Barnetby Engineers Sdgs need to have the passing time box 'ticked'. This was accidentally missed. Sorry for that. If you don't tick the boxes on these 2 moves the track machines will stop briefly at Wrawby Junction.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 24/05/2011 at 14:31 #16032
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5B67 05+45 EWD ECS Cleethorpes CS - Cleethorpes & 1B67 0557 EWD Cleethorpes - Manchester Airport. Platform requires changing from P3 to P4 on both trains.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 26/05/2011 at 12:40 #16096
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Frodingham No.1 Pilot(FHP1).

Does the core code accept TDs where the first number is an alpha letter in relation to locations accepting trains offered by a telephone call?
Trent Yard does not like FHP1,
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 27/05/2011 at 09:14 #16104
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Well all the Immingham locations accept IMP1 or IMP2 ok & I have also had no problems when I've called for acceptance at Scunthorpe Anchor Sdgs & Scunthorpe Trent Yard either. The testers (HRU Aaron/Kier & Co) never reported this as an issue either. It will be interesting to see if anyone else reports the same problem. Must say you are the first. I'm going to re-start another session with this timetable from midnight again & I will see if I get this problem. But so far when I've played this timetable I can honestly say I haven't.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 27/05/2011 at 10:09 #16105
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Must say you are the first. I'm going to re-start another session with this timetable from midnight again & I will see if I get this problem.

Sorry, no need to. I checked it again with a new loading and it worked fine.
I noticed FHP1 TT from Frodingham Depot has a location missing. Needs Scunthorpe BSC (ENT C).

How did you find FHP1-2 worked reversing at S326? Which way does it go back to Trent Sidings?
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 27/05/2011 at 10:36 #16106
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Well I signaled it from S.326 to S.328 then to S.36 GPS & then into Scunthorpe Trent Yard. You could try sending it via the 'Transfer Line' also as I see no reason why you couldn't signal it that way.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 01:15 #16131
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Why is it so? I have 0M33's driver asking for authority to proceed after having enter Immingham Storage West Terminal (Western Jetty Arrivals) and last location on TT. Giving the driver the authority to proceed, the loco reverses and heads in the down direction towards the main line.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 03:48 #16134
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9G14 cannot reach Humber Road Jn REV. It is too long.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 04:04 #16135
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BarryM said:
9G14 cannot reach Humber Road Jn REV. It is too long.

and it cannot run early as 0G14 is blocked by 0M46.
58050, you will need to note all of your out of ordinary shunt moves {engine changes) in the General section of the timetable.

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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 10:31 #16140
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BaGrry thanks for the reports & I will try & answer them in order:-
1. 0M33, interesting one, to be honest everytime I've played this tuimetable this loco hasn't yet appeared. I've looked at the timetable information for the movement of this LD & can't see any errors there. If I do see this loco I will let you know what it does. Sorry I can't be more helpful on that one at the moment. If anyone else has had the same issue as Barry on this move please let me know or if anyone knows the answer please post a response.
2. 9G14 does work OK or it has everytime I've played this timetable. The move is as follows :- IR.47 or IR.70 to IR.207 signal then signal to 'LOS' which is directly above IR.122 on the panel on the Up line. The pilot loco will detach & become IMSSP(Immingham Sorting Sidings Pilot). If 0G14 appears early then you should hold it at IR.11 signal until 9G14 has cleared the next signal section, then signal 0G14 behind 9G14. Set the route from IR.207 signal to the 'LOS' on the up as you did for 9G14, but you will have to tell the driver of 0G14 to 'pass the signal at danger'. The loco will go onto the rear of 9G14 & attach, then becoming 6G14. Once 6G14 has gone forward to Immingham Bulk Terminal you can then send IMSSP back to Immingham West S.S. This same process should be repeated for 9G13 (0G13) & 9G15 (0G15). I know the train fits & isn't too long as this move was one of the first I managed to sort out. If you've signaled 9G14 from IR.47 or IR.70 to IR.207 & then to IR.100 then yes the train will be too long thats why you need to sugnal it to the 'Limit of Shunt(LOS)' on the Up Line.
3. Light Diesel movements need to be regulated accordingly. Locos coming off Immingham TMD get priority over locos going on. You can't send a loco on if one rings off first. What I tend to do is signal a LD going onto Immingham TMD through to IE.38(rev). However if one rings off before the loco going onto the shed has passed IE.9 signal, then I just cancel the route between IE.9 signal & IR.38 signal & then signal the loco coming off Immingham TMD first. If the loco going onto Immingham TMD has passed IE.9 signal, you could also set the route from IE.40 signal to the TMD before setting the route from IE.38 signal to IE.40, thus stopping any locos ringing off the TMD.
Most of the light diesel movements in the timetable have associated rules applied to them, that said I have noticed that some of the rules don't seem to work (Chris please note). Why this occurs I'm not too sure & I have checked the rules to make sure they are correct & they seem to be OK to me. One I find regularly happening is 6M11 rings off Lindsey Oil Ref. before 0M11 has arrived. The last time I played this timetable 0G14 came off Immingham TMD on time. I held the loco at IR.207 signal awaiting 9G14. When 9G14 eventually showed it's gace it was running 35 minutes late, so you may need to be patient on that one.

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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 13:17 #16141
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1. 0M33, interesting one, to be honest everytime I've played this tuimetable this loco hasn't yet appeared. I've looked at the timetable information for the movement of this LD & can't see any errors there.
It's "run as required" 40% of time (ie 2 days a week), so it's random as to whether it appears or not. {suggest you don't bother with your lottery ticket this week!}

Edit: also 6M33 then needs to run always, not 40%, as its appearance should be controlled by the 6M33-0M33 rule.

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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 15:07 #16143
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Pascal Keep getting 5T91-2 coming in just after start - train needs ruling the other way and should be set off 5T91-1 1805 Grimsby - Clee ECS
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 16:06 #16144
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Looks like 3 errors here:
1) 2T91 Next wkg (at Grimsby Town) is 5T91, rather than 5T91-1, although the sim will probably assume this;
2) rule '5T91-1 must not depart till 5 mins after 2T91 arr Cleethorpes' will never be triggered as 2T91 doesn't get to Cleethorpes;
3) rule '5T91-1 must appear 12 mins after 5T91-2 leaves' is round the wrong way, as Meld says.
Suggested rules:
a) '5T91-1 must not depart Grimsby Town until 5 mins after 2T91 arr ditto';
b) '5T91-2 must appear 12 mins after 5T91-1 leaves the area'.
It would be also prudent to add the entry time (say 18:25) to 5T91-2, rather than leave as 00:00.

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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 16:31 #16146
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Thanks for the posts regarding 5T91-2 etc. I've amended my version of the timetable, can I suggest all those who have downloaded it do the same please. Many thanks in pointing that out Meld & AndyG.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 16:36 #16147
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Will re-release updated version of this timetable when Chris re-releases the next version of South Humberside sim.
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 29/05/2011 at 17:33 #16149
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Will that be long 12 inch + Lol
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 31/05/2011 at 11:12 #16192
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it may just be my imagination but a nu06mber of the morning ECS services CS- cleethorpes seem to clash in terms of platforming and departure times. eg. i had a transpennine 158 arrive into p3 due to depart about 06:12 then another service entered. a barton shuttle iirc which wanted p3 also but would depart at 06:19. i had to reroute intto p4. i cant remember the exact timings or headcodes but this issue did come up until about 07:00
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South Humberside 1997 - 1998 timetable 31/05/2011 at 15:18 #16198
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jc92 all Barton on Humber trains should be platformed in P4 all day. Next time you get this make a note of the headcodes & I'll alter the master edition of the timetable. Thanks.
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