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North London Line Scrolly 11/09/2012 at 15:54 #35565
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can someone explain why the North London Line Scrolly is in a zip file and not replaced the orginal north london line sim in simulations.

Having Problem downloading it

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North London Line Scrolly 11/09/2012 at 16:00 #35566
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it is because it is a beta file, that is still be worked on but has been released in its current state. this means that it is going to be buggy and will not be perfect.
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North London Line Scrolly 11/09/2012 at 16:01 #35567
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See post #1 ofhttp://www.SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=34&id=31915&Itemid=0&limitstart=10.

http://www.SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=34&id=31941&Itemid=0&limitstart=70 may assist with installation.

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North London Line Scrolly 11/09/2012 at 16:03 #35568
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I think it's a zip because it's a beta simulation.

Wells said:
Having Problem downloading it
Can you be a bit more specific? Which bit can't you get to work?

EDIT: Three people replying at once- new record?

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Last edited: 11/09/2012 at 16:09 by Steamer
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North London Line Scrolly 01/02/2015 at 15:11 #68632
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Does anyone by any chance still have the NLL scrolly sim on here? There is a game on which I would like to join but since I changed my PC I don't have the files and can't get them in the downloads section.

If someone has them and wouldn't mind letting me have them then please email to



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Then I will be very glad to receive them.

Cheers,
Dave

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North London Line Scrolly 01/02/2015 at 18:22 #68636
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This should be made available generally. The paged NLL is really old now and is IMO unplayable because you have to continually close the TT popup between each request.
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North London Line Scrolly 01/02/2015 at 19:10 #68637
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It's not generally available as the developer of the sim is still working on it in between working on other sims and having a life outside of SimSig (But inside of the pub!!).
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North London Line Scrolly 01/02/2015 at 21:07 #68640
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" said:
this means that it is going to be buggy and will not be perfect.
The paged NLL has many more bugs (mostly affecting the Stratford & Reading Lane Jn fringes) than the scrolly one. As such, it seems a strange decision to hold back the scrolly version because it would be buggy.

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North London Line Scrolly 01/02/2015 at 21:44 #68643
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It's not being held back because it's buggy, it's being held back because it needs to be upgraded to the latest loader specification which isn't a 5 minute job
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North London Line Scrolly 01/02/2015 at 23:09 #68648
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It's not being held back because it's buggy, it's being held back because it needs to be upgraded to the latest loader specification which isn't a 5 minute job
Which I kind of get, but the beta is out there and would appear to be a big improvement on the current version.

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North London Line Scrolly 01/02/2015 at 23:26 #68650
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Okay, so we release the beta version and get slated when people find issues with it? At the end of the day, the dev building the sim is upgrading it to the latest loader and is not going to release it until it's in a state that he is happy with, a state that people would accept
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North London Line Scrolly 01/02/2015 at 23:43 #68653
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Okay, so we release the beta version and get slated when people find issues with it? At the end of the day, the dev building the sim is upgrading it to the latest loader and is not going to release it until it's in a state that he is happy with, a state that people would accept
Although I don't want to get involved with whether or not the scrolly version of the NLL (was it .exe or loader I can't remember) should be released as it was....

I always thought it was well received by the forum at the time, with several people writing up timetables that where compatible with the extra bits compared to the paged version.

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North London Line Scrolly 01/02/2015 at 23:45 #68654
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" said:
" said:
Okay, so we release the beta version and get slated when people find issues with it? At the end of the day, the dev building the sim is upgrading it to the latest loader and is not going to release it until it's in a state that he is happy with, a state that people would accept
Although I don't want to get involved with whether or not the scrolly version of the NLL (was it .exe or loader I can't remember)
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North London Line Scrolly 02/02/2015 at 08:39 #68661
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Okay, so we release the beta version and get slated when people find issues with it?
As compared with some sims that come out for sale with more bugs (or, at least, more visible bugs) than the NLL "beta" had? I don't really get the impression that the quality of initial releases of sims have changed much since betas stopped being released.

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North London Line Scrolly 02/02/2015 at 09:54 #68664
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" said:
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Okay, so we release the beta version and get slated when people find issues with it?
As compared with some sims that come out for sale with more bugs (or, at least, more visible bugs) than the NLL "beta" had? I don't really get the impression that the quality of initial releases of sims have changed much since betas stopped being released.
As far as I am concerned the decision to release a sim, in whatever form, rests solely with the developer of that sim.

If a sim is released as a Beta then I would expect it to have bugs and wouldn't complain about them (other than reporting them so that they can be fixed). A public beta shouldn't really have any showstopper bugs though.

If, however, the sim is released as a normal sim then it is reasonable to expect that there aren't any bugs - at least nothing glaringly obvious - and those that are spotted after released are fixed quickly.

Kev

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