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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 11/01/2014 at 15:38 #53786 | |
woodruff
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Thanks for the info. I did wonder if all the points on the wtt needed to be input and went for the timing points that matched the sim and the wtt. The point that BarryM raised was in regard to when playing the sim as a host for a session I beleive, [ as I have not played in a sim session I was not aware of this].
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 11/01/2014 at 15:39 #53787 | |
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woodruff
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Thank you for the info RainbowNines. I will amend for an updated version.
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 17/01/2014 at 12:40 #53959 | |
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bandiez
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Hi I am nearly through this timetable and I got to say it brilliant. i have noticed a few errors with it, regarding location times. I have had a few trains with stopping times at gretna junction instead of passing times which in turn makes them all late by a few minutes at lockerbie. I cant remember which trains these are as I forgot to write them down. Also on the same topic I dont know if this really happens in real life or not but 4S54 has a stopping time are Penrith rather than a passing time. Im guessing this is incorrect as it does not have an arrival time but please correct me if im wrong. Thanks for the timetable. Having great fun Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 17/01/2014 at 12:46 #53960 | |
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bandiez
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Also know just noticed 1S78 also has a stopping time instead of passing time at Penrith too
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 17/01/2014 at 15:58 #53970 | |
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john havenhand
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4s54 hardly runs in real life when did it was often late and would be looped at penrith otherwise straight through then early to onwards
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 17/01/2014 at 16:29 #53975 | |
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woodruff
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Thank you for the feed back bandiez....I will note for when I update.
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 17/01/2014 at 16:31 #53976 | |
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woodruff
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Thank you for the info john. When I update a % of say 20% possibly needs putting in to reflect this.
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 19/01/2014 at 18:53 #54022 | |
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sandy221
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Slowly working my way through this TT and my 1st problem is just after 13:00 Hours, Train 4E99 enters and loco is powered by AC. When this train arrives at Carlisle it is unable to travel forward to Corby Gates as this section of track seems to need Diesel Traction. Is this an error in the TT or am I missing something.
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 19/01/2014 at 19:22 #54023 | |
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TomOF
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Yes, It's not possible to send an electric train there. The Limits of electrification are marked in the sim.
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 20/01/2014 at 16:30 #54060 | |
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woodruff
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Thanks for the info sandy221. Did not have this issue on the test runs I did but I will check and amend if needed.
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 20/01/2014 at 16:34 #54061 | |
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woodruff
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Just checked sandy221 and it should be a diesel hauled train. Looks like I followed the train details, [ states it is a 86 hauled train when it should not be].
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 22/01/2014 at 19:08 #54126 | |
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GeorgeUK
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Can somebody point out to me what the train descriptions mean? Say: 75C86D12, I imagine 75 refers to the speed and 86 to the Locomotive type, with D being double-headed, but what would the C and the 12 mean? Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 23/01/2014 at 16:46 #54156 | |
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woodruff
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C is container, 12 is the weight , [ in this case being 1200 tons]. Is the train description confusing GeorgeUk? I only ask as when I wrote the timetable I thought it might add more interest to the train description? If it makes the description confusing I may leave out for any more timetables. What are your thoughts?
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 23/01/2014 at 20:37 #54167 | |
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GeorgeUK
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That clears it up. I actually think it is more interesting. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 24/01/2014 at 12:52 #54193 | |
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woodruff
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B = Both (i.e. a Heavy Axle Weight Container train) C = Container H = Heavy Axle weight - = Standard SRTs The above are also included as info in the nr wtt pdf documents. If you go to the newtworkrail website and search for working timetable, you can look, download the documents. Glad to heat that you find the train description interesting as i find it a question what to put in the train description. Should it be " class 86x2 + 17xFFA/FGA Freightliner 5 set 10:00 Southampton FLT-Motherwell FLT 0r "10:00 Southampton FLT-Motherwell FLT" 0r even " 75C86D12 10:00 Southampton FLT-Motherwell FLT" ! I think I asked once and it seemed to be what ever the timetable writer wished to do. If you want any more info GeorgeUk I would post a question on the forum as there are more forum members that actually work in the rail industry and can provide much more info than my limited knowledge as a SimSig user. Log in to reply |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 09/03/2014 at 21:33 #56777 | |
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GMac
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I've found a few glitches with this so far: 1) 1M21 (Shieldmuir - Willesden Postal) appears twice in the version of my timetable (firstly 07.40 then again at 08.01). Had to delete the second one. 2) Nearly all passenger trains from the WCML north seem to be running at least 8-10 minutes early when entering the sim, which can cause platforming problems at Carlisle  3) The S&C (Leeds) trains should all be Class 158 units, not 156s. Also the 05.53 to Leeds (2H81) is booked for a 158+153 combo, as it forms the morning commuter service from Settle and points south and gets a bit cosy with just a single set! 4) The dwell time at Hardendale for the first service due there isn't really realistic - it should have to wait there longer to simulate the run round move before re-entering the sim & returning to Harrisons Sidings Last edited: 09/03/2014 at 21:36 by GMac Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 09/03/2014 at 22:01 #56778 | |
postal
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" said:Nearly all passenger trains from the WCML north seem to be running at least 8-10 minutes early when entering the sim, which can cause platforming problems at CarlisleThe location tagged as Lockerbie in the sim is not really Lockerbie but is just N of the Kirkpatrick Fleming boundary. That means there is a big chunk of distance missing. If the sim TT uses the Lockerbie times from the WTT trains will enter early because of this. For Pascal's heritage TT we had to run some test trains from entry to Gretna Jn and Quintinshill loop to establish the actual running times and back time from whichever of those locations to the sim entry time rather than using the Lockerbie WTT time in order to get things running to time. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 10/03/2014 at 20:22 #56810 | |
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woodruff
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Thanks for the info GMac. I used the wtt timing load for the trains which on the ones from nr 150, for 150/155/156 trains. 1M21, both trains are run as required and need a rule for this, as I had not had any practise on writing rules I have this on my list, when I update. Other items noted for my check list. Log in to reply |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 10/03/2014 at 20:49 #56812 | |
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TomOF
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It will go back to being called Kirkpatrick on the next release to avoid further confusion.
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| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 13/05/2014 at 11:56 #60407 | |
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woodruff
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Before I do a spring clean on the 2013 timetable, has any one got any issues that have not been noted on any previous posts, or suggestions to improve. :yikes Log in to reply |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 21/05/2014 at 21:26 #60797 | |
Steamer
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About halfway through this, spotted a couple of minor issues: 1S40 should have passing time ticked at Penrith. Timing error on 1M54- booked 1 minute Penrith> Tebay, then 20 sat in Oxenholme! 1E76 is an hour early- should enter at 13:55, not 12:55. I think you're missing a few Northern trains between Newcastle and Carlisle- there's an hourly service between the two. Looking at the current TT, you're missing 2N13/2N24, 2N17/2N28 and 2M34 to Whitehaven. Most of the mail trains included don't run- 1S55, 1M44, 1M03 and 1S04 are the only ones that run daily. I'm fairly sure 1S04 doesn't split at Carlisle. 1M44 tends to be 3x Class 325, 1M03 1x 325, I don't know about the two northbound ones. Other than that, a great TT! "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 22/05/2014 at 08:07 by Steamer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 21/05/2014 at 22:16 #60799 | |
HST125Scorton
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Class 325, 1M44 3x325, 1M03 1x325 1S96 3x325, 1S55 1x325 The above only run nowadays 1S04/1M21 Run During December to help out on parcels ect Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |
| Timetable 2013 for version 3 Carlisle sim. 21/05/2014 at 22:25 #60800 | |
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HST125Scorton
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Just to add, 1M44 3x325, Shieldmuir Mail Terminal - Warrington Royal Mail 1M03 1x325, Shieldmuir Mail Terminal - Warrington Royal Mail 1S96 3x325, Willesden PDRC/Warrington Royal Mail - Shieldmuir Mail Terminal 1S55 1x325, Warrington Royal Mail - Shieldmuir Mail Terminal Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |