Upcoming Games

(UTC times)


Full list
Add a game

Upcoming Events

No events to display

Who's Online

Cheapside, waucott, zacpartridge (3 users seen recently)

LUL Dwell Times?

You are here: Home > Forum > Simulations > Timetables > Marylebone IECC > LUL Dwell Times?

Page 1 of 1

LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 13:20 #62309
GW43125
Avatar
495 posts
Good afternoon all,

I am currently working on a timetable for Marylebone and am inputting the LUL workings.
So my question is:
Does anybody know what the minimum dwell times are for LUL trains, as there is no arrival time specified in the WTT. I was planning to use the 'dwell time' box instead so if anyone knows what the minimum times are, that would be a great help.

Thanks a lot,
Jamie.

Log in to reply
LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 14:10 #62312
tjfrancis
Avatar
358 posts
i think i right some one may know better than me they spend 10 secs in each stop off peak in peak hours is 20 secs
I am dyslexic so please consider this when reading my posts
Log in to reply
LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 14:42 #62313
Late Turn
Avatar
696 posts
The process of closing the doors and getting the train underway must take the best part of ten seconds alone, so I think the dwell time will be rather more than that!
Log in to reply
LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 14:44 #62314
flyingpigs123456
Avatar
36 posts
Best way to find out, go on youtube and count the seconds go by if you can't find out anywhere else
Log in to reply
LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 14:46 #62316
tjfrancis
Avatar
358 posts
when i had a cab ride the driver sayed they are only post to spend 10 to 20 secs in the stop
I am dyslexic so please consider this when reading my posts
Log in to reply
LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 16:58 #62326
CTCThiago
Avatar
232 posts
" said:
when i had a cab ride the driver sayed they are only post to spend 10 to 20 secs in the stop
I'll try to be simple, as i see some videos on youtube:

Factors of Dwell:

1. Train stop < to > Train open the doors.
2. Train opening doors dwell.
3. Dwell time available for passengers to Enter/Exit.
4. Train closing doors dwell.
5. Train with the doors closed < to > Train start to move.

This is my conception on dwell at station in that case. On the specific S8 Stock:

1. 2 seconds.
2. 3 seconds.
3. 8 seconds.
4. 5 seconds.
5. 5 seconds.

So, you have a dwell of: 23 seconds.

You only can "change" the factor number "3" (Dwell time available for passengers to Enter/Exit.) based on peak and off-peak period.

Off Peak: 23 seconds.
1. 2 seconds.
2. 3 seconds.
3. 8 seconds.
4. 5 seconds.
5. 5 seconds.

Peak: 31 seconds.
1. 2 seconds.
2. 3 seconds.
3. 16 seconds.
4. 5 seconds.
5. 5 seconds.

Hope this helps Jamie,
Thiago.

Log in to reply
The following user said thank you: headshot119
LUL Dwell Times? 01/07/2014 at 07:13 #62347
metcontrol
Avatar
217 posts
On the Metropolitan Line for the area shown in the sim, the average dwell time is timetabled for 20 seconds. However this varies at the following places:

Amersham N/B - trains can be booked to "arrive" up to 4 minutes earlier (to allow for detrainment)
Chalfont - trains can be booked to "arrive" up to 1 minute earlier
Rickmansworth - generally up to 1 minute each way allowed
Harrow - generally up to 1 minute each way allowed.

If you're using a Working Timetable, if the time has a letter inserted between the hours and minutes then the train has a booked "stand" or earlier arrival time. If it doesn't then the dwell has been timed for 20 seconds. The letters are generally "a" for ½ minute, "b" for 1 minute, "c" for 1½ minutes and so on.

Last edited: 01/07/2014 at 07:15 by metcontrol
Log in to reply
LUL Dwell Times? 01/07/2014 at 07:40 #62351
GW43125
Avatar
495 posts
" said:
On the Metropolitan Line for the area shown in the sim, the average dwell time is timetabled for 20 seconds. However this varies at the following places:

Amersham N/B - trains can be booked to "arrive" up to 4 minutes earlier (to allow for detrainment)
Chalfont - trains can be booked to "arrive" up to 1 minute earlier
Rickmansworth - generally up to 1 minute each way allowed
Harrow - generally up to 1 minute each way allowed.

If you're using a Working Timetable, if the time has a letter inserted between the hours and minutes then the train has a booked "stand" or earlier arrival time. If it doesn't then the dwell has been timed for 20 seconds. The letters are generally "a" for ½ minute, "b" for 1 minute, "c" for 1½ minutes and so on.
Thanks for that, I was aware of the letters, just not the time when there's no letter specified

In that case, I'll use 23 secs.

Thanks for all your help everyone,
Jamie.

Log in to reply