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Various Platform Lengths 30/11/2014 at 08:49 #65899
kaiwhara
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Hi Guys

Just a quick request to see if we could possibly get the Platforms Lengths given to us in Meters, expecially at Southsea? I ask this, as I am looking at a Carriage Working Notice, which obviously points to the current track layout with Platform 4 being at least 12 cars long, and the Manual gives all lengths in Car Lengths. This doesn't help me when I want to know whether a 10 car 444 will fit or not (and I suspect it won't).

Additionally, I don't suppose there is any chance of a startup option being made available to allow the "new platform lengths" at Southsea so that current timetables can be represented without having to resort to short forming some trains?

I am currently working on a 2014 timetable for Portsmouth. I already have Southern and First Great Western sorted, but it is South West Trains that run the big trains, and I know the 12 car 450's (and I suspect the 10 car 444's) booked for Southsea Platform 4 will not fit.

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Andrew

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Various Platform Lengths 30/11/2014 at 08:55 #65900
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Andrew,

"12 cars" when discussed in the manual means at least 12 cars of class 450 stock (246m long).

A 10 car 444 is 232m long.

In the old era, PMS P4 is I suspect approximately 200m long.

A 10 car 458/5 is 204m long, this is approximately the length of 10 class 450 vehicles, although they can only be run in 4, 8 or 12-car formations.

So personally, i'd use 205m as the P4 length.

Hope this helps,
Jamie.

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Various Platform Lengths 30/11/2014 at 09:15 #65901
Noisynoel
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Welcome to my world! That's how it's shown in the sectional appendix!
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Various Platform Lengths 30/11/2014 at 09:43 #65903
Steamer
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From TC lengths, platforms at Portsmouth and Southsea are:

P1-300m
P2-290m
P3-230m
P4-265m

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Various Platform Lengths 30/11/2014 at 09:51 #65904
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Ah so they may just fit. Time for a Test Train..... :side:
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Various Platform Lengths 30/11/2014 at 10:21 #65905
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" said:
Ah so they may just fit. Time for a Test Train..... :side:
remember that if you alter the "stopping position" in the train's TT you may be able to gain slightly more space too

Gareth

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Various Platform Lengths 30/11/2014 at 13:16 #65906
John
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" said:
I am currently working on a 2014 timetable for Portsmouth.
:S

I have recently finished a Dec 2014 - May 2015 timetable, and am about to start testing - hopefully we're not both writing the same timetable :doh

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Various Platform Lengths 30/11/2014 at 18:47 #65911
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" said:
" said:
I am currently working on a 2014 timetable for Portsmouth.
:S

I have recently finished a Dec 2014 - May 2015 timetable, and am about to start testing - hopefully we're not both writing the same timetable :doh
It more or less could be. I was actually writing for May 14 - Dec 14, but I cannot imagine much has changed John! Oops

Did you get the relevant stock formations to fit at Southsea Low Level?

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Various Platform Lengths 01/12/2014 at 10:44 #65920
John
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I had to reduce the trains to 225m to get them to fit.
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