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Paisley 06/12/2014 at 12:23 #66242
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On the Ardrossan thing; I think I need to see a save from a few minuted before it goes wrong so I can see what happens and then maybe then deduce why.

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Just a thought was this from a saved game? There was a problem with Ardrossan which I fixed twice, wonder if it's still going wrong.

Peter

Yes that appears to be an issue, what I can't understand is why the fix is continually reverting.

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Paisley 06/12/2014 at 12:33 #66243
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On the Ardrossan thing; I think I need to see a save from a few minuted before it goes wrong so I can see what happens and then maybe then deduce why.

Peter

Just a thought was this from a saved game? There was a problem with Ardrossan which I fixed twice, wonder if it's still going wrong.
I had the problem before saving the game, then the issue persists after loading back up for a save. I'm currently at 9.00, the next train into that section is 2T81. I will see if the same thing happens again. This would be the 3rd train to do so if that is the case.

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Paisley 06/12/2014 at 12:43 #66247
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On the Ardrossan thing; I think I need to see a save from a few minuted before it goes wrong so I can see what happens and then maybe then deduce why.

Peter

Just a thought was this from a saved game? There was a problem with Ardrossan which I fixed twice, wonder if it's still going wrong.
I had the problem before saving the game, then the issue persists after loading back up for a save. I'm currently at 9.00, the next train into that section is 2T81. I will see if the same thing happens again. This would be the 3rd train to do so if that is the case.

Craig
Once you have a saved game the problem will recur as it's the ARS path that's being saved a "false" so no train will ever find it. It can be fixed manually if you open up the .ssg file but it's a bit of a fiddle.

I've got a dozen or so niggly issues to look at/fix so hopefully I can get a fix for this out over the weekend.

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Paisley 06/12/2014 at 15:01 #66249
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There appear to be some bits missing from the Wiki- the Interlockings section only has Ayr- Elderslie.
Words are there, just not displayed for some reason I can't fathom out at the moment.

Peter
Syntax error.

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Paisley 06/12/2014 at 15:24 #66253
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The ARS is conflicting with the Auto.

The Auto settings work in a fairly simplistic way while the ARS follows the details written into the TT (and the ARS and Auto ideas are sometimes are at variance with one another). If you de-select the Auto buttons you should find that everything works as planned.

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Paisley 5T11 06/12/2014 at 16:00 #66257
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I did have 2T11 going into the wrong platform but I corrected it, I was also playing with the extra box ticked. Routing as shown on entry for 5T11 no alteration made.
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Paisley 5T11 06/12/2014 at 16:08 #66258
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Sorry other info you required 5T11 no paths shown on tt editor and was running with Largs extra box ticked.
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Paisley 5T11 06/12/2014 at 16:45 #66262
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running with Largs extra box ticked.
That's your problem as I suspected.

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Paisley 5T11 06/12/2014 at 17:57 #66266
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Have now unticked Largs extra box. Thanks everyone for help. Regards Cabooseman
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Paisley 5T11 06/12/2014 at 20:47 #66275
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Small spelling error here:
05:43 6R70 did not have permission (Chelmerston weighbridge permssion)

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Paisley 10/12/2014 at 14:52 #66416
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Peter,

I've found another bit of an oddity at PA322, - up line between Falkland and Prestwick - which sometimes (so I can't reproduce a savegame prior to it happening)reverts the train to non - ARS.

On clicking "make train ARS" it immediately reverts back and travels on as normal.

Not a disaster, but most strange.

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Paisley 11/12/2014 at 16:12 #66442
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For some reason ARS seems to think that the timetables for all 2Txx Glasgow bound trains are invalid so it makes them Non-ARS.
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Paisley 11/12/2014 at 16:53 #66443
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For some reason ARS seems to think that the timetables for all 2Txx Glasgow bound trains are invalid so it makes them Non-ARS.
It is a problem in the coding of the sim but it only happens if a saved game is re-loaded. The problem does not occur in a game which has run continuously from first load.

Peter is aware and has the fix so it will be solved when the sim is updated.

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Paisley 11/12/2014 at 17:11 #66444
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Oh okay. I got this message pop up "Signal lamp failure detected in the Gourock RR interlocking area" but yet the signal failure was signal PG214 which is at Dalry?
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Paisley 15/12/2014 at 23:14 #66713
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Noticed a very minor issue- shouldn't the 'shunt exit' arrows at Bogston/Wemyss Bay Jn (applying to signals P78 and P67) be white, not grey?
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Paisley 26/12/2014 at 13:19 #67052
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Great sim which I am very much enjoying.
I have an internal error message come up at 0716; SwingSet not all swingable.
I'm assuming that this is not something to do with an obscure Christmas party..............

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Paisley 26/12/2014 at 13:36 #67053
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I have an internal error message come up at 0716; SwingSet not all swingable.
Can you check that you have the latest version of the loader; there was a problem causing that that got fixed recently.

If you already do, do you have a saved game from just before the problem happened? Can you reproduce the problem? If so, can you give instructions on how to do so? All those will help locate the problem (that's a particularly complex piece of code, so I can't just look at it and say what's wrong).

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Paisley 26/12/2014 at 13:39 #67054
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I'm not sure exactly what it means but I'd need to know exactly point/route that relates to and the circumstances to be able to comment further.

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Paisley 26/12/2014 at 13:54 #67055
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Thanks, chaps.
I ran the updates before running the latest version of the 0000 timetable. I did that because I was tardy making my purchase and I knew there were revisions available.
The sim has locked up and I cannot do anything without hitting the OK button. If I save then, would that suffice?
I'm not sure how long back the last save was, but we'll see: I can save the present position as a different file name.
I think the circumstances are that 2W43 was delayed and is now just clearing Dunrod Loop (on the main) and ARS is already setting up the route into the loop for the delayed 2W41 so as to permit 2W40 to cross on it's way back from Weymiss.
I'll hold off for a while before hitting the OK button.

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Paisley 26/12/2014 at 14:12 #67056
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Thanks, chaps.
I ran the updates before running the latest version of the 0000 timetable. I did that because I was tardy making my purchase and I knew there were revisions available.
The sim has locked up and I cannot do anything without hitting the OK button. If I save then, would that suffice?
I'm not sure how long back the last save was, but we'll see: I can save the present position as a different file name.
I think the circumstances are that 2W43 was delayed and is now just clearing Dunrod Loop (on the main) and ARS is already setting up the route into the loop for the delayed 2W41 so as to permit 2W40 to cross on it's way back from Weymiss.
I'll hold off for a while before hitting the OK button.
Wondered if it was at Dunrod, there's a bit of fudgy coding there to facilitate the shared overlap and the manual does allude to it being a bit fragile and some unexpected results can occur.

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Paisley 26/12/2014 at 14:46 #67057
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Here's a save immediately after pressing OK.
All looks normal now!

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Paisley 26/12/2014 at 15:01 #67058
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I see how it happens and it is as suspected, I could reproduce in laboratory conditions but was unsure if it could happen in normal running.

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Paisley 26/12/2014 at 16:24 #67061
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I see how it happens and it is as suspected, I could reproduce in laboratory conditions but was unsure if it could happen in normal running.

Peter
Actually winding back to the position at launch of the save, the primary problem is the O/Lap from P133 missing. That's because I never envisaged two trains following each other, one direct, one through the loop. The whole shared O/Laps came to light because of one train crossing a day. There is nothing in the raw data that indicates this happens but we were assured by an ex signaller that it could and Realtimetrains indicated it must.

Solved the O/L problem which should make the actual problem impossible to achieve (except through fiddling).

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Paisley 27/12/2014 at 17:06 #67113
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I have an internal error message come up at 0716; SwingSet not all swingable.

Please see this thread.

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Paisley 05/01/2015 at 10:35 #67401
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Hi, I have just tried to start up the simulation this morning and was greeted by an error message.
I have also included the save file.

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Craig

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