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Finsbury Park Sig 382 01/01/2015 at 13:28 #67272
Prof Jolly
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In modern era sig 382 @ Finsbury Park as a R on the emergency replace is this correct I thought they should be an E
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Finsbury Park Sig 382 01/01/2015 at 13:33 #67275
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"R" means that the replacement can be relied on for non-emergency situations, ie it's guaranteed that it has actually replaced the signal to danger (there's proving back to the signalbox, etc.).

I wonder, has convention on this changed over the years? For example, I've seen plenty of sims with user worked level crossings protected only by "E" switched signals, when as far as I have learnt so far you shouldn't rely on "E" switches except in emergencies.

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Finsbury Park Sig 382 01/01/2015 at 21:52 #67285
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I don't think that "standard" is adhered to, because (As fas as I can recall) all the replacement buttons at Victoria ASC use the letter R, but only a handful can actually be relied upon.

(Actually, by now most of the letters have rubbed off so these are just blank buttons!)

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Finsbury Park Sig 382 02/01/2015 at 07:55 #67295
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Until recently (ish) - only 'E' buttons were available to Devs. Since the advent of loader, both E and R are possible, Although the only difference as far as SimSig is concerned is the label.
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Finsbury Park Sig 382 02/01/2015 at 18:03 #67302
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" said:
I don't think that "standard" is adhered to, because (As fas as I can recall) all the replacement buttons at Victoria ASC use the letter R, but only a handful can actually be relied upon.

(Actually, by now most of the letters have rubbed off so these are just blank buttons!)
Victoria's "R" buttons preceded any standard. Early IECCs had "E" buttons even for signals that could be relied upon - usually those SSI-controlled though there may have been more. These days as most/all new interlockings are electronic, they can all be relied upon so they would all be labelled R and E would very slowly become obsolete.


" said:
Until recently (ish) - only 'E' buttons were available to Devs. Since the advent of loader, both E and R are possible, Although the only difference as far as SimSig is concerned is the label.
Long before the Loader, James.

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Finsbury Park Sig 382 02/01/2015 at 20:53 #67304
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While we're on this subject, what is the "H" control on Carlisle?


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Finsbury Park Sig 382 02/01/2015 at 20:56 #67305
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While we're on this subject, what is the "H" control on Carlisle?

I've found the answer myself. H = HABD (Hot Axle Box Detector). http://www.SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=98&id=34266&Itemid=0&limitstart=10#38112

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Finsbury Park Sig 382 03/01/2015 at 09:42 #67314
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" said:
" said:
While we're on this subject, what is the "H" control on Carlisle?

I've found the answer myself. H = HABD (Hot Axle Box Detector). http://www.SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=98&id=34266&Itemid=0&limitstart=10#38112
I'm not sure whether they actually activate in SimSig. Basically, if the wheels or axles of the train are too hot, it will sound an alarm and warn the signallers to tell control to take it out of service.

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