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Rogue ARS 09/01/2016 at 17:32 #79751
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Amy reason why the ARS would set a rogue route for a train here? Basically I have 3S23 having just passed signal 3620 heading towards Apperley Junction as booked and the ARS for some reason decided it be good to set the route from signal 3864 to signal 922 even though there was no train actually heading towards that route.

Also I noticed that 5A02 at the time was waiting time in Plat 6 as 1A02 and the ARS decided again to set a non required route, this time it was to allow 5A02 to reverse and then head back to Leeds.

As I'm currently learning the area from the signalling point of view as opposed to the more regular point of view as a passenger I have the sim on Easy and Extra ARS and was wondering if I had stumbled across a bug here?

Apart from that, I am really enjoying Leeds and must pass on my thanks to whoever was involved with it!

Edited: Please note the rogue route I mentioned above with the specific signals has happened again, no idea why though as there isn't any trains anywhere near it....

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Rogue ARS 09/01/2016 at 19:18 #79752
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" said:
Amy reason why the ARS would set a rogue route for a train here? Basically I have 3S23 having just passed signal 3620 heading towards Apperley Junction as booked and the ARS for some reason decided it be good to set the route from signal 3864 to signal 922 even though there was no train actually heading towards that route.
That's not a valid route, unless you mean routeS from 3864-3854-3852-908-922.

If you cancelled one of the routes, does a TD go non-ARS and, if so, where was that TD and what text in the berth?


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Also I noticed that 5A02 at the time was waiting time in Plat 6 as 1A02 and the ARS decided again to set a non required route, this time it was to allow 5A02 to reverse and then head back to Leeds.
If the train description said 5A02 then I would expect that. ARS works off whatever you put in the TD berths, not the F2 list.


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Apart from that, I am really enjoying Leeds and must pass on my thanks to whoever was involved with it!
Thanks. It's proving quite popular.

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Rogue ARS 09/01/2016 at 21:32 #79756
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Amy reason why the ARS would set a rogue route for a train here? Basically I have 3S23 having just passed signal 3620 heading towards Apperley Junction as booked and the ARS for some reason decided it be good to set the route from signal 3864 to signal 922 even though there was no train actually heading towards that route.
That's not a valid route, unless you mean routeS from 3864-3854-3852-908-922.

If you cancelled one of the routes, does a TD go non-ARS and, if so, where was that TD and what text in the berth?


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Also I noticed that 5A02 at the time was waiting time in Plat 6 as 1A02 and the ARS decided again to set a non required route, this time it was to allow 5A02 to reverse and then head back to Leeds.
If the train description said 5A02 then I would expect that. ARS works off whatever you put in the TD berths, not the F2 list.


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Apart from that, I am really enjoying Leeds and must pass on my thanks to whoever was involved with it!
Thanks. It's proving quite popular.
I just put in the entrance and exit signals at the time of the route set so pass on the exact route but it seems to be something like that.

I'm sorry but I'm not 100% sure on this, all I know is the correct route was being taken by the train and for some reason this rogue route was given.

According to the TD berths, 5A02 was at the buffer end of Plat 6 and 1A02 it's next working was at the Doncaster end of the said Plat, nowhere else was there a berth showing 5A02 which is why this has baffled me.

That's good to hear, I used to travel quite a lot in and out of Leeds mostly on the Peterborough - Leeds - Blackpool North routing so it's good to be able to finally play a SimSig of the area

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Rogue ARS 10/01/2016 at 00:12 #79767
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Just a update on another possible rogue ARS bug, I have 4R08 running 7 late which has just passed signal 3678 with the route set to 3675 so basically the route is set to end of the booked path which is right.

However at signal 3678, the TD berth has just displayed a unknown headcode with **** at that particular TD berth.

The train in question has gone past signal 3678 as you can see the route was set but as expected it has rightly gone to danger with the passage of 4R08.

Sorry to be a pain but I will be posting on this thread with any more incidents I consider to be rogue ARS bugs.

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Rogue ARS 10/01/2016 at 17:40 #79783
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Okay so 5F06 is passing signal 950 when 1P07 standing at signal 3688 and booked to depart at 05:55 has the ARS set the route from signal 3648 which blocks the route for 1B16 waiting at signal 3676 to deoart at 05:51.

The thing is I had manually put signal 3648 back to danger which didn't result in a change of aspect to 1P07 as I hadn't yet even set the route from signal 3688 seeing as I had it collared so for some reason ARS shouts out Route cancelled for 5F06 - Made non-ARS however the route wasn't cancelled for 5F06 at all!

Any idea why I keep getting these bugs?

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Rogue ARS 11/01/2016 at 01:23 #79790
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Can you attach a saved game next time so we can see what's going on? Thanks.
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Rogue ARS 11/01/2016 at 08:45 #79791
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Can you attach a saved game next time so we can see what's going on? Thanks.
This is the closest save game I have to the said issue I pointed out, hopefully the brains here can work out why it's doing what it's doing!

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Rogue ARS 11/01/2016 at 17:17 #79798
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Thanks for the save. I can see 5T01 setting the wrong route from that save, however, I can't reproduce any of the other issues you mention. But 5T01 is itself odd: it's a seeded train so it would have been a simple interpose, and if I cancel and re-interpose the TD in the same berth it works correctly. Are you aware of anything else you might have done with that TD?
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Rogue ARS 12/01/2016 at 00:41 #79801
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No fella, I'm leaving the route setting to the ARS mostly but I am setting the route as and when required especially where I can see the wrong route has been set ie the train is booked to split in Plat B but carries on to Plat D because the ARS has told it to do so as a example.

Other then that, I don't know I have found out by trial and error that no matter how much I try I cannot use plats 12 to 17 to plat a Harrogate bound service!!! lol!

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Rogue ARS 20/02/2016 at 16:02 #80793
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You won't be able to! Harrogate-bound trains have to use lines A or B to get to the ex-LN route to Horsforth and points east at Armley Jcn (I know this as a regular commuter to and from Leeds and Headingley ). Airedale & Wharfedale Line trains can use lines C or D to get to Shipley or Ilkley, which are accessible from the south side platforms but lines A & B can only be reached from platforms 1-11 and the through line (using the latter does allow you to get to 12C/D in a pinch). Likewise you can't get to platforms 1-6 from the Midland line towards Hunslet and Stourton.
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