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0S26 09/01/2017 at 11:05 #91382
Terry
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0S26 booked to depart from platform 15 at 23.45 for CAMDEN YARD is AC powered; Camden Yard is unwired! I have managed to send loco to Camden Yard as per WTT but in the 'trains list'. it shows that 0S26 is "OUT OF VALID TRACK" on completion of the movement. Can anybody enlighten me?

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0S26 09/01/2017 at 21:51 #91404
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It indicates that the train cannot go any further due to the track being unwired.

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0S26 10/01/2017 at 03:29 #91409
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Thank you Barry for your reply. However, I am slightly bemused! If this engine has been correctly routed (as it has been), why does it still show on the 'train list'? At the end of the simulation, it will still show in the 'train list' which means, surely, it has not been disposed of. I know this is a very minor issue but I am curious!

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0S26 10/01/2017 at 07:25 #91413
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Terry in post 91409 said:
Thank you Barry for your reply. However, I am slightly bemused! If this engine has been correctly routed (as it has been), why does it still show on the 'train list'? At the end of the simulation, it will still show in the 'train list' which means, surely, it has not been disposed of. I know this is a very minor issue but I am curious!

Terry.
It's stuck!. It has run out of "overhead" power. Consequently, it has not been correctly disposed of. Did you get a message from the driver? The reply answer should have given you a list of alternatives.

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0S26 10/01/2017 at 07:34 #91414
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No message from the driver, indeed nothing to tell me that the engine was in trouble. However, what I don't understand is why an AC powered loco is programmed into Camden Yard if the Yard is "unwired".

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0S26 10/01/2017 at 09:33 #91415
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Terry in post 91414 said:
No message from the driver, indeed nothing to tell me that the engine was in trouble. However, what I don't understand is why an AC powered loco is programmed into Camden Yard if the Yard is "unwired".

Terry.
Depending on the approach of the timetable creator, this may be what appeared in the real-life WTT (a little boo-boo like that was among the least of sins that you could find if you looked for them). Sometimes there would be a WTT amendment, particularly if there were significant alterations (a train needed timings for a completely different route, for instance), but the Simsig timetable creator won't always have access to pieces of paper like that (often a piece of duplicated A4 (or foolscap) carrying a number of short-term or one-off traffic notices). And sometimes it would be left to the signalmen on the spot to work it out for themselves, often 'on the fly' on a day-to-day basis. I'd imagine a light engine being got rid of would be quite likely to be the latter and a signalman would not usually have a great problem, since their job invariably involved dealing with minor perturbations of a similar magnitude anyway.

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0S26 10/01/2017 at 11:14 #91416
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Thanks for that. In this situation, how would I re-route the engine, for instance, to Willesden TMD? Without re-editing the timetable, I can envisage that the driver of this loco would challenge any different route set for it.
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0S26 10/01/2017 at 13:08 #91418
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The yard is all electrified except for the bit to the left of T275, so that probably isn't the problem. Which lights are lit on the ground frame panel and what are all the lever positions? My first guess would be that lever 15 is in the wrong position.
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0S26 10/01/2017 at 15:39 #91421
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I'm going going to have to come back to you on this as I've deleted the Euston simulation and started afresh using the '1990's simulation period' as before. Incidentally, I have checked in the manual and I cannot see any reference to the point you make about non-electrification being only partial in Camden Yard. I went by the diagram showing the line to and from Camden Yard as being 'unwired'. Forgive me if I have failed to read the manual properly.

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0S26 10/01/2017 at 16:36 #91425
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Terry in post 91421 said:
I'm going going to have to come back to you on this as I've deleted the Euston simulation and started afresh using the '1990's simulation period' as before.
Okay.

Terry said:
Incidentally, I have checked in the manual and I cannot see any reference to the point you make about non-electrification being only partial in Camden Yard. I went by the diagram showing the line to and from Camden Yard as being 'unwired'. Forgive me if I have failed to read the manual properly.
The manual isn't clear on this. In addition, I've just realized that I was looking at the source for the development version, so it might not match the current release (Euston is somewhere on the queue for conversion to loader).

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