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Aberdare GF 24/03/2017 at 18:04 #94079
Lyn-Greenwood
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I've got a couple of queries re the Aberdare Ground Frame.

1. The shunt signal on the Hirwaun side of the GF is labelled SHW3 (using right-click), but lever 3 of the GF says it is SHW1 when you hover the mouse pointer over it. Phone calls from trains held at the shunt signal say they are at signal SHW3. However, the TT editor has SHW1 in the list of seed points and a train seeded at that signal actually appears at SHW3 on the diagram! The Incident Control Panel knows about SHW3 but not SHW1, so is the signal SHW1 or SHW3 in reality?

2. If a route is set from signal A176 to A172 (Up direction between Fernhill and Cwmbach), then it's not possible to unlock the Aberdare GF. However, if you cancel the route and then unlock the GF, you can set the route again even when a route has been set either from or towards Hirwaun and the GF signal cleared. Something wrong here, I think.

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Aberdare GF 24/03/2017 at 18:24 #94080
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Lyn-Greenwood in post 94079 said:
I've got a couple of queries re the Aberdare Ground Frame.

1. The shunt signal on the Hirwaun side of the GF is labelled SHW3 (using right-click), but lever 3 of the GF says it is SHW1 when you hover the mouse pointer over it. Phone calls from trains held at the shunt signal say they are at signal SHW3. However, the TT editor has SHW1 in the list of seed points and a train seeded at that signal actually appears at SHW3 on the diagram! The Incident Control Panel knows about SHW3 but not SHW1, so is the signal SHW1 or SHW3 in reality?

2. If a route is set from signal A176 to A172 (Up direction between Fernhill and Cwmbach), then it's not possible to unlock the Aberdare GF. However, if you cancel the route and then unlock the GF, you can set the route again even when a route has been set either from or towards Hirwaun and the GF signal cleared. Something wrong here, I think.
1) Naming on SHW3 made consistent.

2) The ground frame was missing from the conditions in the route, which I have fixed.

Both fixed in 1.0.6 (Check for updates)

"As the last track dropped, and the route became free, came the cry BROMLEY " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
Last edited: 24/03/2017 at 18:30 by headshot119
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Aberdare GF 30/04/2020 at 15:01 #126449
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I think an issue remains here - save attached

4C42 has been sat at Aberdare for some time waiting for me to operate 450 release, however the frame isn't available to release. 4C42's route has long since timed out.

2A00 has been signalled from A176 to A172 to follow 4C42 however this route is still preventing the release on 450 from being given, but will then allow it once 2A00's route times out. Are we saying its correct despite the route not directly conflicting with the GF release?

Assuming its correct for A176 - A172 to lock the frame, can this be added to the manual as its quite an unusual arrangement.

sim version is 1.1

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Aberdare GF 30/04/2020 at 15:19 #126450
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It's working per the control tables. I'll arrange to add a section to the manual.
"As the last track dropped, and the route became free, came the cry BROMLEY " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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