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| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 23/11/2017 at 15:20 #103208 | |
jc92
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(note to mods-theres currently no timetable board for manchester north or piccadilly) Just wondering if anyone plans on making a sunday timetable for piccadilly? Normally theyd be boring but given how busy the sim is, a sunday timetable might actually make a good single player sim? "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 23/11/2017 at 15:27 #103209 | |
Meld
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Joe - I've got the data - the same Sunday as Cardiff, just need to find the time to finish collating it all.
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| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 23/11/2017 at 15:41 #103211 | |
Steamer
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I've also got one in development for December 2017.
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| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 23/11/2017 at 16:14 #103215 | |
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jc92
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Nice one! I feel like a copout playing the weekday ones at half speed 😂
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| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 24/11/2017 at 09:08 #103267 | |
jem771
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Agreed, is a bit too hectic for just one player. perhaps a sunday TT for new street would be nice too as is the same Jezz Log in to reply |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 24/11/2017 at 09:36 #103270 | |
Andrew G
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The size of the control area will still make it challenging for a solo user. On a Sunday afternoon there are about 30-35% less trains than a weekday. For example an off peak hour on a weekday at Slade Lane Junction there are circa 50 trains per hour compared to 34 trains per hour on a Sunday. Some traffic patterns are similar (e.g. Virgin West Coast gradually steps up to 3 London services per hour) whereas other lines have much less traffic - noticeably the local traffic on the East Lines. In order to replicate the situation accurately the user will need to contend with several line blockages between Longsight and Piccadilly in the morning to support line walks. These change during the morning to cover the Fast and Slow lines and at one stage there is very limited access to the East Lines. While it might seem odd to suggest a Strike Day - another option is a date when Northern Conductors/Guards are on strike as the Northern services are reduced in volume and are concentrated between 0700 and 1900. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Meld |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 24/11/2017 at 10:08 #103271 | |
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Meld
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Now that's an interesting thought - doing a strike day, I wonder if I could work one from the existing 2015 TTs. BTW there wiĺl be a 1400 set of TTs for all 3 Sims soon just need to rework a few diagrams for Edge Hill/Hunts Cross
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| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 24/11/2017 at 14:28 #103283 | |
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Steamer
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Andrew G in post 103270 said:In order to replicate the situation accurately the user will need to contend with several line blockages between Longsight and Piccadilly in the morning to support line walks. These change during the morning to cover the Fast and Slow lines and at one stage there is very limited access to the East Lines.That sounds interesting- do you know the approximate block times/duration/order, for anyone who wants to replicate this set-up? More generally, I think the reduced pressure on the throat on Sundays, coupled with a reduction in trains on the Windsor Bridge side (one per hour only on Westhoughton and Atherton lines) could tip the 'playability' balance for some people, or let people who can handle the weekday TT on the easy setting use the harder modes. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 24/11/2017 at 14:44 #103285 | |
Splodge
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My weekly notices for last Sunday show: ALL Lines blocked between Ardwick Jn and Heaton Norris from 0055 until 0700 Then between 0800 and 1045 the slows are blocked (including Mayfield Loop and Longsight Down Goods and run round) between Slade Lane Jn and Ardwick Jn Then 1045-1200 the fasts are blocked between Slade Lane and Piccadilly East; with the block between Slade Lane Jn and Ardwick Jn extending until 1300. There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 14/01/2018 at 17:48 #105067 | |
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Steamer
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I've finished writing my Sunday 2017 TT for Manchester Piccadilly, and it's part way through testing. Splodge in post 103285 said: My weekly notices for last Sunday show:Could you be a bit more specific about the blocking points at the Piccadilly end? I'd like to include the details of the possession in the TT notes, although it will be up to the user as to whether or not they want to simulate it. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 14/01/2018 at 21:11 #105078 | |
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Splodge
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I no longer have the specific notice, I can send you images of this weeks notices which are pretty much identical if that would be of use? *** In terms of easier timetables I also have a 30th December TT under test; though I'm finding it perhaps isn't as easy as I anticipated! I intend to release it initially with only the south side running due to a possession between Piccadilly and Oxford Road; so although it is much quieter there is a lack of platform space at Piccadilly (only 1-8 available) which makes quite a challenging TT. There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 14/01/2018 at 21:27 #105081 | |
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Steamer
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Splodge in post 105078 said:I no longer have the specific notice, I can send you images of this weeks notices which are pretty much identical if that would be of use?It's OK- I've dug through the EAS on Network Rail's site, which lists the possession areas. I'm assuming possessions shown as running to Man Picc East Jn extend to the last inward-bound signal gantry, and those to Ardwick Jn extend to the second-to-last inbound gantry? "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 14/01/2018 at 21:46 #105084 | |
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Splodge
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The possession boards might not tie in exactly with the gantry locations (often listed as 'beyond MPxxxx points'), but to all intents and purposes that is indeed the case.
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| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 15/01/2018 at 22:27 #105118 | |
mfcooper
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On a Sunday, there used to be so many regular Line Blockages on the Windsor Bridge panel, that a member of P-Way staff had to be in the signal box (Acting as a Protection Controller[PC]) to take the blockages and then make phone calls to the trackside staff, as the signaller did not have the capacity to make all the relevant phone calls.
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| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 25/01/2018 at 17:56 #105463 | |
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Steamer
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Does anyone know how much shunting is done around Longsight CMD on a Sunday that involves Picadilly's area, and what moves tend to be made? I'm guessing there'll be a fair bit in the morning as stock comes off the depot, and again in the evening as it goes back on, but what about during the day? I'm planning to include shunt moves as an optional add-on for my Sunday TT. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 25/01/2018 at 20:36 #105466 | |
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Splodge
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Not much more than what you'll find in the WTT. Occasional moves from the freight sidings and shed into the shunt neck (MP39) to reverse at MP44 - mostly 390s; most Northern stock coming off that end travels south. One thing un-replicated in TTs is that any movement involving a 390 (or pair of 323s on occasion) at the south end requires the route from MP39 into the neck to be set to enable them to fit behind the point work to bring them back into the depot (or in a morning send them off MP44). Due to the location of the 390s wash and 'health hub', 390s almost always enter Longsight on the washing plant line which brings them to MP39, which is left off for access to the neck. They then reverse to where they need to go - either into a shed or into the 'coal yard' to come off at MP77 in the morning after cleaning. There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 26/01/2018 at 17:25 #105493 | |
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Steamer
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Thanks. So nothing shunting from the Depot onto the Dep/Rec or Up and Down goods then?
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| Possibility of a sunday timetable? 28/01/2018 at 11:57 #105539 | |
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Splodge
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In a morning, anything reversing behind MP44 tends to be signalled straight onto the down fast; there is no reason they can't be shunted onto the reception lines but there is some track that is currently long term out of use, so anything shunting back into the sidings has to run via the up line anyway. I think the Up and Down Goods is also 'temporarily' out of use where it runs parallel to the departure/reception line. In an evening any 323's or 390's stabling in what are labelled the freight sidings will have to get there from either MP44 or MP54; generally you will have up to two 390s and two 323's making that move (323s may be coupled); though on a Sunday the units in that section of the depot don't always leave. As I reported in another thread, the freight sidings weren't electrified in the release I was using so movements in and out of them weren't possible. This may since have been resolved as there has been a sim update. There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |