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AB Cancellation 03/12/2017 at 13:02 #103598
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Hi all,

Unfortunately I am struggling with another aspect of East Coastway. I accidentally wrong-routed a train at Willingdon Junction (I tried to send it towards Pevensey & Westham rather than Polegate). The driver has phoned up and complained (as they should) and I have cancelled and reset the route, but I now cannot cancel the AB instruments. I have tried following the procedure outlined in the manual, but no matter which mouse button I use on the cancel button (arrowed in attachment) it does not respond. Is there anything else I need to do to release the block instruments?

Thanks again!

Mark (Gwasanaethau)


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AB Cancellation 03/12/2017 at 13:11 #103599
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OK – facepalm moment here: there’s nothing stopping me from just setting the instrument back to normal on the receiving end…

*sigh*

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AB Cancellation 03/12/2017 at 15:01 #103603
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You could also return the section signal back to danger, that will usually cancel it too!
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AB Cancellation 04/12/2017 at 19:26 #103624
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Thanks. I thought that would’ve been the case too, but that didn’t happen in my case, however…
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AB Cancellation 04/12/2017 at 19:35 #103625
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Gwasanaethau in post 103598 said:
Hi all,

Unfortunately I am struggling with another aspect of East Coastway. I accidentally wrong-routed a train at Willingdon Junction (I tried to send it towards Pevensey & Westham rather than Polegate). The driver has phoned up and complained (as they should) and I have cancelled and reset the route, but I now cannot cancel the AB instruments. I have tried following the procedure outlined in the manual, but no matter which mouse button I use on the cancel button (arrowed in attachment) it does not respond. Is there anything else I need to do to release the block instruments?

Thanks again!

Mark (Gwasanaethau)

Right-click the "CAN" button in the block instrument of the signal box that you wish to cancel the Line Clear from. For example if you wish to cancel a Line Clear from Polegate to Willingdon Jn on the Up Main you would click the CAN button at Polegate. Once you've clicked the button it will flash for about two minutes while the Welwyn control times out. When the time-out has completed a message will be displayed "Block overide release given" and the button will show a steady light. Then right-click the Normal control on the block instrument and you're all done.


Kev

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AB Cancellation 04/12/2017 at 21:27 #103628
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KymriskaDraken in post 103625 said:
Right-click the "CAN" button in the block instrument of the signal box that you wish to cancel the Line Clear from. For example if you wish to cancel a Line Clear from Polegate to Willingdon Jn on the Up Main you would click the CAN button at Polegate. Once you've clicked the button it will flash for about two minutes while the Welwyn control times out. When the time-out has completed a message will be displayed "Block overide release given" and the button will show a steady light. Then right-click the Normal control on the block instrument and you're all done.


Kev
Thanks Kev. I had already given Train On Line – could that be why I couldn’t use the cancel buttons?

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AB Cancellation 04/12/2017 at 21:57 #103629
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KymriskaDraken in post 103625 said:
Gwasanaethau in post 103598 said:
Hi all,

Unfortunately I am struggling with another aspect of East Coastway. I accidentally wrong-routed a train at Willingdon Junction (I tried to send it towards Pevensey & Westham rather than Polegate). The driver has phoned up and complained (as they should) and I have cancelled and reset the route, but I now cannot cancel the AB instruments. I have tried following the procedure outlined in the manual, but no matter which mouse button I use on the cancel button (arrowed in attachment) it does not respond. Is there anything else I need to do to release the block instruments?

Thanks again!

Mark (Gwasanaethau)

Right-click the "CAN" button in the block instrument of the signal box that you wish to cancel the Line Clear from. For example if you wish to cancel a Line Clear from Polegate to Willingdon Jn on the Up Main you would click the CAN button at Polegate. Once you've clicked the button it will flash for about two minutes while the Welwyn control times out. When the time-out has completed a message will be displayed "Block overide release given" and the button will show a steady light. Then right-click the Normal control on the block instrument and you're all done.


Kev
Welwyn control what’s that lmao, nah just spin round the clock and all sorted (alright that’s was real world not simsig lol)

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AB Cancellation 05/12/2017 at 12:50 #103663
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Hooverman in post 103629 said:
KymriskaDraken in post 103625 said:
Gwasanaethau in post 103598 said:
Hi all,

Unfortunately I am struggling with another aspect of East Coastway. I accidentally wrong-routed a train at Willingdon Junction (I tried to send it towards Pevensey & Westham rather than Polegate). The driver has phoned up and complained (as they should) and I have cancelled and reset the route, but I now cannot cancel the AB instruments. I have tried following the procedure outlined in the manual, but no matter which mouse button I use on the cancel button (arrowed in attachment) it does not respond. Is there anything else I need to do to release the block instruments?

Thanks again!

Mark (Gwasanaethau)

Right-click the "CAN" button in the block instrument of the signal box that you wish to cancel the Line Clear from. For example if you wish to cancel a Line Clear from Polegate to Willingdon Jn on the Up Main you would click the CAN button at Polegate. Once you've clicked the button it will flash for about two minutes while the Welwyn control times out. When the time-out has completed a message will be displayed "Block overide release given" and the button will show a steady light. Then right-click the Normal control on the block instrument and you're all done.


Kev
Welwyn control what’s that lmao, nah just spin round the clock and all sorted (alright that’s was real world not simsig lol)
The hurdy-gurdy that you wind to get the release is part of the Welwyn Control :)


Kev

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AB Cancellation 05/12/2017 at 14:26 #103674
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KymriskaDraken in post 103663 said:
Hooverman in post 103629 said:
KymriskaDraken in post 103625 said:
Gwasanaethau in post 103598 said:
Hi all,

Unfortunately I am struggling with another aspect of East Coastway. I accidentally wrong-routed a train at Willingdon Junction (I tried to send it towards Pevensey & Westham rather than Polegate). The driver has phoned up and complained (as they should) and I have cancelled and reset the route, but I now cannot cancel the AB instruments. I have tried following the procedure outlined in the manual, but no matter which mouse button I use on the cancel button (arrowed in attachment) it does not respond. Is there anything else I need to do to release the block instruments?

Thanks again!

Mark (Gwasanaethau)

Right-click the "CAN" button in the block instrument of the signal box that you wish to cancel the Line Clear from. For example if you wish to cancel a Line Clear from Polegate to Willingdon Jn on the Up Main you would click the CAN button at Polegate. Once you've clicked the button it will flash for about two minutes while the Welwyn control times out. When the time-out has completed a message will be displayed "Block overide release given" and the button will show a steady light. Then right-click the Normal control on the block instrument and you're all done.


Kev
Welwyn control what’s that lmao, nah just spin round the clock and all sorted (alright that’s was real world not simsig lol)
The hurdy-gurdy that you wind to get the release is part of the Welwyn Control :)


Kev
Unless it was one of those *blasted* lozenge type winders that didn't have the little handle. Especially at North Pole, when a train changing engines at Mitre Bridge needed 4 line clears in (sometimes very) quick succession!!!!!

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AB Cancellation 05/12/2017 at 16:22 #103689
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kbarber in post 103674 said:
KymriskaDraken in post 103663 said:
Hooverman in post 103629 said:
KymriskaDraken in post 103625 said:
Gwasanaethau in post 103598 said:
Hi all,

Unfortunately I am struggling with another aspect of East Coastway. I accidentally wrong-routed a train at Willingdon Junction (I tried to send it towards Pevensey & Westham rather than Polegate). The driver has phoned up and complained (as they should) and I have cancelled and reset the route, but I now cannot cancel the AB instruments. I have tried following the procedure outlined in the manual, but no matter which mouse button I use on the cancel button (arrowed in attachment) it does not respond. Is there anything else I need to do to release the block instruments?

Thanks again!

Mark (Gwasanaethau)

Right-click the "CAN" button in the block instrument of the signal box that you wish to cancel the Line Clear from. For example if you wish to cancel a Line Clear from Polegate to Willingdon Jn on the Up Main you would click the CAN button at Polegate. Once you've clicked the button it will flash for about two minutes while the Welwyn control times out. When the time-out has completed a message will be displayed "Block overide release given" and the button will show a steady light. Then right-click the Normal control on the block instrument and you're all done.


Kev
Welwyn control what’s that lmao, nah just spin round the clock and all sorted (alright that’s was real world not simsig lol)
The hurdy-gurdy that you wind to get the release is part of the Welwyn Control :)


Kev
Unless it was one of those *blasted* lozenge type winders that didn't have the little handle. Especially at North Pole, when a train changing engines at Mitre Bridge needed 4 line clears in (sometimes very) quick succession!!!!!
At Little Mill Jn I had to hold in a button for two minutes. That was quite uncomfortable.


Kev

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AB Cancellation 05/12/2017 at 17:14 #103694
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KymriskaDraken in post 103663 said:
Hooverman in post 103629 said:
KymriskaDraken in post 103625 said:
Gwasanaethau in post 103598 said:
Hi all,

Unfortunately I am struggling with another aspect of East Coastway. I accidentally wrong-routed a train at Willingdon Junction (I tried to send it towards Pevensey & Westham rather than Polegate). The driver has phoned up and complained (as they should) and I have cancelled and reset the route, but I now cannot cancel the AB instruments. I have tried following the procedure outlined in the manual, but no matter which mouse button I use on the cancel button (arrowed in attachment) it does not respond. Is there anything else I need to do to release the block instruments?

Thanks again!

Mark (Gwasanaethau)

Right-click the "CAN" button in the block instrument of the signal box that you wish to cancel the Line Clear from. For example if you wish to cancel a Line Clear from Polegate to Willingdon Jn on the Up Main you would click the CAN button at Polegate. Once you've clicked the button it will flash for about two minutes while the Welwyn control times out. When the time-out has completed a message will be displayed "Block overide release given" and the button will show a steady light. Then right-click the Normal control on the block instrument and you're all done.


Kev
Welwyn control what’s that lmao, nah just spin round the clock and all sorted (alright that’s was real world not simsig lol)
The hurdy-gurdy that you wind to get the release is part of the Welwyn Control :)


Kev
I know what one is, I was just jesting we you as none of the coastway east signalboxes had it. You could spin around the block instrument as many times as you liked without any locking or releases getting in the way.

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AB Cancellation 05/12/2017 at 17:16 #103696
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Hooverman in post 103694 said:
KymriskaDraken in post 103663 said:
Hooverman in post 103629 said:
KymriskaDraken in post 103625 said:
Gwasanaethau in post 103598 said:
Hi all,

Unfortunately I am struggling with another aspect of East Coastway. I accidentally wrong-routed a train at Willingdon Junction (I tried to send it towards Pevensey & Westham rather than Polegate). The driver has phoned up and complained (as they should) and I have cancelled and reset the route, but I now cannot cancel the AB instruments. I have tried following the procedure outlined in the manual, but no matter which mouse button I use on the cancel button (arrowed in attachment) it does not respond. Is there anything else I need to do to release the block instruments?

Thanks again!

Mark (Gwasanaethau)

Right-click the "CAN" button in the block instrument of the signal box that you wish to cancel the Line Clear from. For example if you wish to cancel a Line Clear from Polegate to Willingdon Jn on the Up Main you would click the CAN button at Polegate. Once you've clicked the button it will flash for about two minutes while the Welwyn control times out. When the time-out has completed a message will be displayed "Block overide release given" and the button will show a steady light. Then right-click the Normal control on the block instrument and you're all done.


Kev
Welwyn control what’s that lmao, nah just spin round the clock and all sorted (alright that’s was real world not simsig lol)
The hurdy-gurdy that you wind to get the release is part of the Welwyn Control :)


Kev
I know what one is, I was just jesting we you as none of the coastway east signalboxes had it. You could spin around the block instrument as many times as you liked without any locking or releases getting in the way.
I have always said that the Southern moves in a mysterious way :D

Kev

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AB Cancellation 06/12/2017 at 02:44 #103736
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So the burning question is: if the block goes from Line Clear to Train On Line and back to Normal but no train actually arrives, does it count against PPM?
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AB Cancellation 06/12/2017 at 07:33 #103737
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KymriskaDraken in post 103696 said:
Hooverman in post 103694 said:
KymriskaDraken in post 103663 said:
Hooverman in post 103629 said:
KymriskaDraken in post 103625 said:
Gwasanaethau in post 103598 said:
Hi all,

Unfortunately I am struggling with another aspect of East Coastway. I accidentally wrong-routed a train at Willingdon Junction (I tried to send it towards Pevensey & Westham rather than Polegate). The driver has phoned up and complained (as they should) and I have cancelled and reset the route, but I now cannot cancel the AB instruments. I have tried following the procedure outlined in the manual, but no matter which mouse button I use on the cancel button (arrowed in attachment) it does not respond. Is there anything else I need to do to release the block instruments?

Thanks again!

Mark (Gwasanaethau)

Right-click the "CAN" button in the block instrument of the signal box that you wish to cancel the Line Clear from. For example if you wish to cancel a Line Clear from Polegate to Willingdon Jn on the Up Main you would click the CAN button at Polegate. Once you've clicked the button it will flash for about two minutes while the Welwyn control times out. When the time-out has completed a message will be displayed "Block overide release given" and the button will show a steady light. Then right-click the Normal control on the block instrument and you're all done.


Kev
Welwyn control what’s that lmao, nah just spin round the clock and all sorted (alright that’s was real world not simsig lol)
The hurdy-gurdy that you wind to get the release is part of the Welwyn Control :)


Kev
I know what one is, I was just jesting we you as none of the coastway east signalboxes had it. You could spin around the block instrument as many times as you liked without any locking or releases getting in the way.
I have always said that the Southern moves in a mysterious way :D

Kev
Kev - I take it by mysterious way you mean the right way!!!!

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AB Cancellation 06/12/2017 at 09:47 #103739
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Chromatix in post 103736 said:
So the burning question is: if the block goes from Line Clear to Train On Line and back to Normal but no train actually arrives, does it count against PPM?
Unless this is a joke I've completely managed to miss (plausible!), I'm not sure what your thinking is here - a delay related to the original misrouting would count against PPM, but why would PPM take any account of block instruments?

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AB Cancellation 06/12/2017 at 09:50 #103740
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Ah - it was meant to be a joke. "If a tree falls in the forest but..."
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