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Train loses headcode in Siding B 16/01/2018 at 00:08 #105122
Albert
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Found a minor bug in the sim:

When setting a route from the Down Main (S335) through Siding B (S296) to the Up Main (S285), the train's head code ends up at signal 315 and the train continues southbound as ****. This does not happen when it comes from the Up Main (S336).

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Train loses headcode in Siding B 16/01/2018 at 19:02 #105152
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Shunt routes generally don't have TD steps. Also, given that Carlisle is an EXE sim it almost certainly won't be changed until the newer Loader version is ready for release.



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Train loses headcode in Siding B 16/01/2018 at 20:19 #105153
Albert
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About the loader sim I understand, I'm posting it just so there is a record of this bug once the sim gets updated.

This is not actually a shunt route, signal 296 in the siding is approach controlled but there are no shunt aspects involved.

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Train loses headcode in Siding B 17/01/2018 at 00:58 #105160
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Albert in post 105153 said:
About the loader sim I understand, I'm posting it just so there is a record of this bug once the sim gets updated.

This is not actually a shunt route, signal 296 in the siding is approach controlled but there are no shunt aspects involved.
CE335, 325 and CE296 are all shunt signals. The headcode only moves to the first logic location T529, CE315. CE336 is a Home signal. Consequently the signaller is required to enter a headcode.

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Train loses headcode in Siding B 17/01/2018 at 01:39 #105163
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BarryM in post 105160 said:
Albert in post 105153 said:
About the loader sim I understand, I'm posting it just so there is a record of this bug once the sim gets updated.

This is not actually a shunt route, signal 296 in the siding is approach controlled but there are no shunt aspects involved.
CE335, 325 and CE296 are all shunt signals. The headcode only moves to the first logic location T529, CE315. CE336 is a Home signal. Consequently the signaller is required to enter a headcode.

Barry
Which era are we talking about, please?

In the 1980s era, Sdgs B & C were pretty well only used for holding stock during shunt moves and for loco run-rounds. As the sim for that era shows, they were not track circuited and controlled by shunt signals.

After the 1984 crash on the avoiding lines caused the closure and eventual lifting of those lines the signalling in and around the station was improved to give the signallers greater control and flexibility in the restricted operation. The sim reflects this and in the 2000s era a down train can be signalled through Sdg B by using the main signals 286 > 316 > 431. As Albert states, no shunt signals need to be set.

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Train loses headcode in Siding B 17/01/2018 at 13:07 #105168
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2000s era indeed. CE335 is a home signal too in this era so in my opinion it should not matter whether the train comes from CE335 or from CE336.

Whether it is realistic for the TD to step to the end of a siding is an another question; but in this case the behaviour of the sim is not consistent.

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Train loses headcode in Siding B 19/01/2018 at 10:31 #105229
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I was referring to the 1980's era.

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