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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 25/11/2018 at 23:01 #113567
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Tonight, AlexRail575 hosted a chained game of the 11th November 2018 timetable set over Swindon, Westbury, Exeter and Plymouth with myself and DaveHarries.

This thread is just somewhere share the saves from this game.

Swindon 11:30 score:
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Analysis of your performance and score

Trains passing timing points: 419 total timing points
On time: 344 (82%)
2 mins late: 22 (5%)
5 mins late: 22 (5%)
Over 5 mins late: 31 (7%)

Minutes lost/gained overall:
Total minutes lost by you: 19
Total minutes recovered by you: 1532

Trains using the correct platforms: 43 occasions
Correct: 40 (93%)
Opposite: 0 (0%)
Incorrect: 3 (7%)

Miscellaneous:
Total routes cancelled with trains approaching: 0
Total wrong routes set for trains: 3
Total joining moves abandoned: 0
Total trains removed: 0
Total trains shortened: 0
Other points lost: 6

TOTAL SCORE 3470 OUT OF 4051 (86%)

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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 25/11/2018 at 23:03 #113568
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Here are mine.

Exeter:
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Analysis of your performance and score

Trains passing timing points: 433 total timing points
On time: 420 (97%)
2 mins late: 3 (1%)
5 mins late: 6 (1%)
Over 5 mins late: 4 (1%)

Minutes lost/gained overall:
Total minutes lost by you: 0
Total minutes recovered by you: 2567

Trains using the correct platforms: 49 occasions
Correct: 48 (98%)
Opposite: 0 (0%)
Incorrect: 1 (2%)

Miscellaneous:
Total routes cancelled with trains approaching: 0
Total wrong routes set for trains: 0
Total joining moves abandoned: 0
Total trains removed: 0
Total trains shortened: 0
Other points lost: 0

TOTAL SCORE 4241 OUT OF 4343 (98%)
Westbury (low number of trains and a lot of them: delayed from Swindon because of failures - also had to remove quite a few because of a chaining issue with Swindon):
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Analysis of your performance and score

Trains passing timing points: 219 total timing points
On time: 155 (71%)
2 mins late: 16 (7%)
5 mins late: 14 (6%)
Over 5 mins late: 34 (16%)

Minutes lost/gained overall:
Total minutes lost by you: 66
Total minutes recovered by you: 735

Trains using the correct platforms: 18 occasions
Correct: 14 (78%)
Opposite: 0 (0%)
Incorrect: 4 (22%)

Miscellaneous:
Total routes cancelled with trains approaching: 1
Total wrong routes set for trains: 0
Total joining moves abandoned: 0
Total trains removed: 4
Total trains shortened: 0
Other points lost: 60

TOTAL SCORE 1359 OUT OF 2176 (62%)

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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 25/11/2018 at 23:12 #113569
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Thanks for arranging this chain, was an enjoyable, although quiet game.
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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 25/11/2018 at 23:27 #113570
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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 25/11/2018 at 23:34 #113571
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Thanks everyone, a good experience for what was a first time host. Hopefully I get some time in the future to write busier timetables; however for now I will continue with the 11 November date - proved entertaining enough with the failures and such, while allowing a decent single player opportunity to play those sims all alone (for new players or if you wish to chain more than one and play it solo - though who would do that...)
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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 26/11/2018 at 06:58 #113575
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AlexRail575 in post 113568 said:
Here are mine.

also had to remove quite a few because of a chaining issue with Swindon
What chaining issues? Your other report in chaining appeared to be resolved. Is this a Sim issue, in which case I need to know about it, or a timetabling issue which I don't?

Peter

“Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught falsehoods in school. And the person that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool” Plato
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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 26/11/2018 at 09:29 #113577
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Peter Bennet in post 113575 said:
AlexRail575 in post 113568 said:
Here are mine.

also had to remove quite a few because of a chaining issue with Swindon
What chaining issues? Your other report in chaining appeared to be resolved. Is this a Sim issue, in which case I need to know about it, or a timetabling issue which I don't?

Peter
From spectatiing part of the game, one of the issues observed was Mantis 10391, in relation to trains not stepping past Melksham when its enterd Swindon.

I dont know if there was other issues

James

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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 26/11/2018 at 13:32 #113582
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I believe that Westbury was also seeing a fringe track circuit occupied incorrectly, and all trains entering Westbury from Swindon were entering twice.
This second case strikes me as odd, as I'm sure I've played a Swindon/Westbury chain before without issue.
Swindon connected into Westbury, I'm not sure whether Westbury or another sim in the chain was the master.

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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 26/11/2018 at 13:36 #113583
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Peter Bennet in post 113575 said:
AlexRail575 in post 113568 said:
Here are mine.

also had to remove quite a few because of a chaining issue with Swindon
What chaining issues? Your other report in chaining appeared to be resolved. Is this a Sim issue, in which case I need to know about it, or a timetabling issue which I don't?

Peter
It seems to be a sim issue, since now it means the bug can be repeated.

Trains entering Westbury from Melksham were duplicated in the train list (and were showing as "train stopped at SN74/72/70"), and had to be removed before a route for a train towards Swindon could be set, because the track behind SN74 was showing occupied on the Westbury sim, even though it was clear at the Swindon end. See pic. The chain worked fine otherwise.


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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 26/11/2018 at 13:44 #113584
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AlexRail575 in post 113583 said:
Peter Bennet in post 113575 said:
AlexRail575 in post 113568 said:
Here are mine.

also had to remove quite a few because of a chaining issue with Swindon
What chaining issues? Your other report in chaining appeared to be resolved. Is this a Sim issue, in which case I need to know about it, or a timetabling issue which I don't?

Peter
It seems to be a sim issue, since now it means the bug can be repeated.

Trains entering Westbury from Melksham were duplicated in the train list (and were showing as "train stopped at SN74/72/70"), and had to be removed before a route for a train towards Swindon could be set, because the track behind SN74 was showing occupied on the Westbury sim, even though it was clear at the Swindon end. See pic. The chain worked fine otherwise.

If you have a save from both sims at this point please post them

It's not my fault! I was left unsupervised.
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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 26/11/2018 at 13:50 #113585
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I'll pick up the two saves above and see if I can reproduce locally.

Edit: Yes, I've just run the save forward to 11:36 and had 2M08 enter Westbury from Wootton Bassett, whilst the Swindon version of the train is still in the platform at Swindon. The headcode appears in the approach berth, but it is cleared out as soon as the Westbury sim advances the train through Chippenham. The train has then sat at SN74 with the track circuit illuminated, but refusing to move although the slot has been granted on Westbury. As an experiment, I cleared SN74 on Swindon, but this had no effect.
I have then let Swindon's 2M08 approach Chippenham and routed it onto the branch.

The saves attached are at this point.

Continuing on from here, Swindon's 2M08 continues as expected, entering the Melksham line and transferring over to Westbury, where it enters at Thingley Jn (Down Melksham). Westbury's version of 2M08 remains stuck at SN74 with the track circuit at that signal shown occupied.

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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 26/11/2018 at 15:07 #113587
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Right, I have figured out what is going on here now, It appears that the Wootton Bassett Entry point is not being supressed when chained. That appears to be the cause of this. Currently in process of making mantis report.
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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 26/11/2018 at 15:08 #113588
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That would also explain Westbury getting a spurious "6Y15 will be entering your area 33 minutes late" from Swindon, even though the sims were, obviously, chained and said train was running on time.

Thanks,

Alex

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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 26/11/2018 at 15:26 #113592
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MarkC in post 113587 said:
Right, I have figured out what is going on here now, It appears that the Wootton Bassett Entry point is not being supressed when chained. That appears to be the cause of this. Currently in process of making mantis report.
Reported Mantis #0022266

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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 27/11/2018 at 04:24 #113622
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Edgemaster in post 113582 said:
I believe that Westbury was also seeing a fringe track circuit occupied incorrectly, and all trains entering Westbury from Swindon were entering twice.
This second case strikes me as odd, as I'm sure I've played a Swindon/Westbury chain before without issue.
Swindon connected into Westbury, I'm not sure whether Westbury or another sim in the chain was the master.
And just for documentary purposes, the master sim was Exeter.

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Western Chain 11-11-2018 Timetable Savegames 28/11/2018 at 10:13 #113669
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My save and performance analysis from Plymouth. Thanks to those who helped me with Plymouth during the session and apologies for the delay in uploading the save.

Analysis of your performance and score

Trains passing timing points: 137 total timing points
On time: 128 (93%)
2 mins late: 2 (1%)
5 mins late: 5 (4%)
Over 5 mins late: 2 (1%)

Minutes lost/gained overall:
Total minutes lost by you: 0
Total minutes recovered by you: 4

Trains using the correct platforms: 25 occasions
Correct: 25 (100%)
Opposite: 0 (0%)
Incorrect: 0 (0%)

Miscellaneous:
Total routes cancelled with trains approaching: 0
Total wrong routes set for trains: 1
Total joining moves abandoned: 0
Total trains removed: 0
Total trains shortened: 0
Other points lost: 2

TOTAL SCORE 1260 OUT OF 1340 (94%)

Cheers,
Dave

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