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1991 timetable 09/12/2019 at 11:38 #122167
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Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.
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1991 timetable 09/12/2019 at 13:33 #122169
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jc92 in post 122167 said:
Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.
Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?

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1991 timetable 09/12/2019 at 14:24 #122170
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lazzer in post 122169 said:
jc92 in post 122167 said:
Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.
Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?
there's no crossover to facilitate it running into Milford west sidings from GW.

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1991 timetable 09/12/2019 at 14:33 #122171
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jc92 in post 122170 said:
lazzer in post 122169 said:
jc92 in post 122167 said:
Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.
Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?
there's no crossover to facilitate it running into Milford west sidings from GW.
That'll teach me to ask a question without looking at the sim first

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1991 timetable 09/12/2019 at 19:26 #122185
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jc92 in post 122170 said:
lazzer in post 122169 said:
[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.
Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?
If the train was very early enough to likely cause delays to following trains, I suppose one could run it in behind 5235 at Milford Junction and reverse it back into the sidings. I know that would involve abandoning timetables and reversing, but it's what I think I would do if I needed to get one out of the way and there was a spare through siding.

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1991 timetable 09/12/2019 at 19:54 #122187
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lazzer in post 122185 said:
jc92 in post 122170 said:
lazzer in post 122169 said:
[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.
Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?
If the train was very early enough to likely cause delays to following trains, I suppose one could run it in behind 5235 at Milford Junction and reverse it back into the sidings. I know that would involve abandoning timetables and reversing, but it's what I think I would do if I needed to get one out of the way and there was a spare through siding.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing.

I also had one that was almost 2 hours early for a crew change at Castleford, but luckily nothing came up behind it for that entire time so I parked it on the station approach until the crew was ready (of course, in hindsight if I'd been paying attention I would've parked it in the Goods Loop).

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1991 timetable 11/12/2019 at 04:46 #122213
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I'm working my way through a Friday timetable and I've run into an issue. At around 16:00 0M06 comes out of Knottingley TMD to head to Milford Yard 11 to join 7K46. However there is no 7K46 in the yard, and when I look at the timetable entires, all the 7K46's in the list are FX.

Now, there is a 6K46 in the yard, but that shows no timetable.

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1991 timetable 11/12/2019 at 14:09 #122216
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swiftaw in post 122187 said:
lazzer in post 122185 said:
jc92 in post 122170 said:
lazzer in post 122169 said:
[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.
Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?
If the train was very early enough to likely cause delays to following trains, I suppose one could run it in behind 5235 at Milford Junction and reverse it back into the sidings. I know that would involve abandoning timetables and reversing, but it's what I think I would do if I needed to get one out of the way and there was a spare through siding.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing.

I also had one that was almost 2 hours early for a crew change at Castleford, but luckily nothing came up behind it for that entire time so I parked it on the station approach until the crew was ready (of course, in hindsight if I'd been paying attention I would've parked it in the Goods Loop).
I'd be interested in knowing what train that was which required a crew change change 2 hours early. Next time could you make a note of the train ID & the time it entered please so I can check the master timetable.

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1991 timetable 11/12/2019 at 14:22 #122217
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58050 in post 122216 said:
swiftaw in post 122187 said:
lazzer in post 122185 said:
jc92 in post 122170 said:
lazzer in post 122169 said:
[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.
Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?
If the train was very early enough to likely cause delays to following trains, I suppose one could run it in behind 5235 at Milford Junction and reverse it back into the sidings. I know that would involve abandoning timetables and reversing, but it's what I think I would do if I needed to get one out of the way and there was a spare through siding.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing.

I also had one that was almost 2 hours early for a crew change at Castleford, but luckily nothing came up behind it for that entire time so I parked it on the station approach until the crew was ready (of course, in hindsight if I'd been paying attention I would've parked it in the Goods Loop).
I'd be interested in knowing what train that was which required a crew change change 2 hours early. Next time could you make a note of the train ID & the time it entered please so I can check the master timetable.
It was 6M64, and I realized it was my mistake. It is supposed to spend 2 hours in the Milford Loop before heading to Castleford for the crew change. I completely overlooked that and sent it straight to Castleford.

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1991 timetable 11/12/2019 at 14:22 #122218
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[quote=swiftaw;post=122213]I'm working my way through a Friday timetable and I've run into an issue. At around 16:00 0M06 comes out of Knottingley TMD to head to Milford Yard 11 to join 7K46. However there is no 7K46 in the yard, and when I look at the timetable entires, all the 7K46's in the list are FX.

Now, there is a 6K46 in the yard, but that shows If the 6K46 you are looking at is the set of 36 empty MGR wagons. then it won't show a timetable as it's not going anywhere as that only refers to the empty wagom set at Milford Sdgs. The timetable data for the train only appears once the loco has been attached & IIRC 0K46 comes LD from Healey Mills & the empty wagon set goes to load at Grimethorpe Colliery.

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1991 timetable 11/12/2019 at 14:28 #122220
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swiftaw in post 122217 said:
58050 in post 122216 said:
swiftaw in post 122187 said:
lazzer in post 122185 said:
jc92 in post 122170 said:
lazzer in post 122169 said:
[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.
Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?
If the train was very early enough to likely cause delays to following trains, I suppose one could run it in behind 5235 at Milford Junction and reverse it back into the sidings. I know that would involve abandoning timetables and reversing, but it's what I think I would do if I needed to get one out of the way and there was a spare through siding.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing.

I also had one that was almost 2 hours early for a crew change at Castleford, but luckily nothing came up behind it for that entire time so I parked it on the station approach until the crew was ready (of course, in hindsight if I'd been paying attention I would've parked it in the Goods Loop).
it's most important for users plaing this timetable to read the timetable data for every train, so you can make a note note of the route it is booked to go as well as if it is booked to recess anywhere en route. This is likely to impact on the return working as some trains are governed by rules in minutes which govern when the return working enters. This timrtable is NOT straightforward by any means. Incidentally Kev & I started a Thursday run through of this timetableearlier in the week just to make sure all is in order with the recent amendments.

I'd be interested in knowing what train that was which required a crew change change 2 hours early. Next time could you make a note of the train ID & the time it entered please so I can check the master timetable.
It was 6M64, and I realized it was my mistake. It is supposed to spend 2 hours in the Milford Loop before heading to Castleford for the crew change. I completely overlooked that and sent it straight to Castleford.

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1991 timetable 11/12/2019 at 17:36 #122225
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swiftaw in post 122213 said:
I'm working my way through a Friday timetable and I've run into an issue. At around 16:00 0M06 comes out of Knottingley TMD to head to Milford Yard 11 to join 7K46. However there is no 7K46 in the yard, and when I look at the timetable entires, all the 7K46's in the list are FX.

Now, there is a 6K46 in the yard, but that shows no timetable.
We had a decision on the loco (Cl.58 or Cl.56) but nothing to sort the Day of the Week. Now fixed.

Kev

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1991 timetable 09/01/2020 at 09:01 #122803
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I ran into the 2G60 bug that has been previously mentioned in this thread. Version 2.3 of the sim. I included a save game.

Also, a related question. Is 6K94 supposed to wait at WK6826 for 2G60 to clear the branch or are they supposed to pass at the loop?

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