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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 24/04/2019 at 11:01 #117812
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With kind thanks to Andrew G for his help in getting the timetable up to scratch for release. It's now available in the Download section in the usual (User-Contributed) place.

Some quick notes:

- This is obviously a "2013 onwards" timetable - please remember to set the appropriate ARS era!

- This starts very gently with a tiny number of Stansted Express services until about 04:45 or so. Start times which work with this timetable without seeding artifacts are 03:15, 03:45, or 04:15.

- There are a few trains where ACI doesn't quite figure out what it needs to do:

* 1K01 - divides three ways, with 1N02 at the rear, 1K04 in the middle, and 1K02 in the front berth. SimSig knows the division correctly, but ACI only manages to insert the front two headcodes.

* Several other trains call at Liverpool St and then depart under the same headcode. Again, ACI doesn't realize this, so you will need to interpose their headcodes into a berth. This affects the following ECS workings: 5G51, 5G52, 5V99, 5V00 and 5S00.

- Headcodes: 'B' headcodes are now used exclusively by the Stansted Express. There were no passenger c2c workings on this particular traffic day.

- ARS does a pretty good job at setting routes here. The evening peak gets very busy however, and you may need to override some of the ARS decisions to avoid trains backing up on the GEML approach in particular. The electric line runnings (XR / TfL Rail) do not allow much leeway at all, and you will often need to take a decision as to whether to let a departing train depart right on time and delay an arriving train to another platform, or vice versa.

- It should also be theoretically possible to build a chaining timetable for West Anglia, but, well, not yet :-)

Enjoy - and please let me know if you find any bugs or issues.

Thanks,

Matt

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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 25/04/2019 at 00:27 #117819
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Hi,

5H82 arr P8 05:33 conflicts with 5U03 dep P8 05:33. Is this intentional?

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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 25/04/2019 at 19:01 #117824
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Yes. It's what happened on the day - caused quite a backlog for platform 8 but then clears reasonably quickly.
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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 30/04/2019 at 19:55 #117967
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Thanks for this TT. The rush hour truly is insane though - with failures on I've not managed to get to 9am without almost having a nervous breakdown, even with ARS!
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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 01/05/2019 at 10:49 #117984
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The 5U03/5H82 conflict still happens and can be seen on RTT here http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/LST/2019/05/01/0533
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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 01/05/2019 at 10:52 #117985
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I see 5U03 in platform 6 instead on that link.
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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 01/05/2019 at 17:21 #118002
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The rush hour truly is insane though - with failures on I've not managed to get to 9am without almost having a nervous breakdown, even with ARS!
Can't argue with that. This is why, when there's any sort of problem at Liverpool Street, cancellations and heavy delays ahoy...

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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 02/05/2019 at 08:29 #118011
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MattJ in post 118002 said:
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The rush hour truly is insane though - with failures on I've not managed to get to 9am without almost having a nervous breakdown, even with ARS!
Can't argue with that. This is why, when there's any sort of problem at Liverpool Street, cancellations and heavy delays ahoy...
...and Gerry Fiennes used to reckon the Evening Standard had a permanently set up headline ready for immediate use, in the largest type available: 'CHAOS AT LIVERPOOL STREET'.

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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 03/05/2019 at 17:59 #118059
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5G52 is timetabled ML/ML at BET, and EL/EL at XOW. ARS tries to continue it on DML instead of crossing over?

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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 03/05/2019 at 19:08 #118061
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Might be an ARS bug, as it clearly validated... Given it's ECS, not exactly a huge problem but will keep a note of it...
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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 03/05/2019 at 19:30 #118064
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The ARS is correct in this case, if the train is meant to crossover to the EL the path and line at Bethnal Green need to be EL and EL, the crossover from the main line to the EL is before Bethnal Green.

It is also possible that the path and line code for 5G52 is correct and the ECS would normally change over to the EL in an area not controlled in the LST sim

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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 04/05/2019 at 10:52 #118077
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Unfortunately, trains dont seed when the map loads when the seed trains box is ticked.
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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 04/05/2019 at 11:07 #118079
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baitboy2004 in post 118077 said:
Unfortunately, trains dont seed when the map loads when the seed trains box is ticked.
That's because the timetable doesn't have any seed trains in it.

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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 04/05/2019 at 12:13 #118082
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kbarber in post 118011 said:
MattJ in post 118002 said:
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The rush hour truly is insane though - with failures on I've not managed to get to 9am without almost having a nervous breakdown, even with ARS!
Can't argue with that. This is why, when there's any sort of problem at Liverpool Street, cancellations and heavy delays ahoy...
...and Gerry Fiennes used to reckon the Evening Standard had a permanently set up headline ready for immediate use, in the largest type available: 'CHAOS AT LIVERPOOL STREET'.
Last night was interesting in Romford Roc after an incident at Romford especially for my colleagues looking after the CIS at Liverpool Street

Glyn

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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 04/05/2019 at 20:35 #118089
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Yep. Tough evening peak, with rare 2Gxx headcodes cracked out for a two part shuttle service on the electric lines...
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Liverpool Street - March 2019 TT now available 04/05/2019 at 20:36 #118090
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Regarding 5G52: thanks. I'll take another look at this train in the timetable (and the source data) tomorrow and see whether a modification is warranted.
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