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3B09/5B09/1B09 at St Davids in the early 80s 03/05/2019 at 16:40 #118055
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I'm playing the excellent Exeter Summer early 80s timetable, Loader version 4.11 and it's just after 4am on Monday.

1B06 has dropped off some vans (3B09) at St Davids platform 3 and departed towards Dawlish. 5B09, which was routed from St Davids North (rev) to P3 has entered the platform and the 2 units are joining to form unit 1B09 (see screenshot). Slight problem here, because the Train List states that 5B09 is still at St Davids Nth (rev) even though in the F3 Timetable Options/Edit timetable/Location List, both joining units are in P3 platform.
When then the join is complete neither 3B09 nor 5B09 are shown in the Train List and train 1B09 is shown waiting at Exeter St Davids North but is actually where it should be, in platform 3.
I noted that on one replay, the timings were slightly different, but the overall result was the same.
As no one else has raised this issue, I suspect that it is something of my own doing, but even though I have re-run the scenario several times and fiddled around with the train locations in F3, I have not yet been able to solve this ‘riddle’
Apologies if it’s something that I’ve missed or done wrong, but I would appreciate somebody explaining what is happening.
Attached is a save from at 03:50.




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3B09/5B09/1B09 at St Davids in the early 80s 03/05/2019 at 17:08 #118057
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Could it just be that the text is incorrect in the Train List?

1B09 going towards Barnstable from platform 3 as it should, albeit a tad late.

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3B09/5B09/1B09 at St Davids in the early 80s 03/05/2019 at 19:11 #118063
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bugsy in post 118057 said:
Could it just be that the text is incorrect in the Train List?

1B09 going towards Barnstable from platform 3 as it should, albeit a tad late.
I doubt the location is wrong. Something else you can do is (from F2) edit the train's timetable and see which location is highlighted. That's the location it's either at, or looking for.

I've not looked at your save, and I don't think this is the case here, but often when this happens the user has confused/misidentified two trains.

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3B09/5B09/1B09 at St Davids in the early 80s 03/05/2019 at 21:14 #118068
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GeoffM in post 118063 said:
bugsy in post 118057 said:
Could it just be that the text is incorrect in the Train List?

1B09 going towards Barnstable from platform 3 as it should, albeit a tad late.
I doubt the location is wrong. Something else you can do is (from F2) edit the train's timetable and see which location is highlighted. That's the location it's either at, or looking for.

I've not looked at your save, and I don't think this is the case here, but often when this happens the user has confused/misidentified two trains.

But I seem to remember doing that already Geoff.

Before I explain what happens in more detail, I should point out that 1B09 can proceed from P3 to Barnstable without any problems regardless of any odd locations below.

As in the end there are no problems (trains are doing what they are Timetabled to do), It isn’t actually necessary for anybody to run the attached save and I wouldn’t want people to think that I am wasting their time.
If anybody does though, I would be interested in any comments.

Anyway, I have run the sim through again from 03:50.
This is what happens:
• A save taken at 03:57 shows 5B09 waiting at the reversing signal E664 and 3B09 in P3 without a TD (1st screenshot)
• At this point everything is normal.
• I then set a route into P3 for 5B09 which then proceeds. At 04:00 F2 shows 5B09 in motion and when it arrives in platform 3 the join begins.
• At approximately 04:01:30 a check of F2 indicates the 2 trains joining. The location of 5B09 is still given as St Davids North (rev) even though in the F3 Timetable Options-Edit Timetable-Location List, it is shown as being in P3 as is 3B09. Re-setting the location makes no difference. F2 train list still shows St Davids North (rev).
• The joining is completed at 04:03:25 and I then insert the new TD.
We know that 5B09 entered P3 and joined 3B09 and this combined unit (1B09) is in P3. However, F2 Train List shows 1B09’s location as St Davids North rev. (2nd screenshot). Re-setting the location doesn’t change anything.




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3B09/5B09/1B09 at St Davids in the early 80s 03/05/2019 at 22:37 #118070
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Hi,

I have run your backup and confirm what you are observing.

However, I have a 0350 Monday backup amongst my backup archive and when I run it everything shows up normally. see the F2 screen below.

I can't hazard a guess as to why yours is different.

Vince


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3B09/5B09/1B09 at St Davids in the early 80s 04/05/2019 at 09:20 #118075
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VInce in post 118070 said:
Hi,


I have run your backup and confirm what you are observing.

However, I have a 0350 Monday backup amongst my backup archive and when I run it everything shows up normally. see the F2 screen below.

I can't hazard a guess as to why yours is different.

Vince

Hi Vince.

It's weird to say the least.
I doubt that anyone else can come up with an answer if you can't Vince.

Thanks for looking anyway. At least I'm not going mad and as I said in my post above, 1B09 went where it was supposed to go regardless of what happened at St Davids.

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3B09/5B09/1B09 at St Davids in the early 80s 04/05/2019 at 11:00 #118078
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I am also running the Monday version and have reached 0900hrs

I did not experience anything untoward with 5B09/1B09 at any point..

I have noticed that the last reported point often takes a while to be updated however it just requires one to be vigilant when looking at F2 etc,

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