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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 06/06/2019 at 00:00 #118769
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Having issues getting PZ03.

Signalled train on to the Traverser from Hung Hom P5, moved the train to Road 7 as indicated. After locking the table and pulling off Sig 1165 the train refuses to budge and does not respond to "shunt forward unless the timetable is manually stepped ahead. After a significant wait, the train phones in and insists they are held by signal 1161 (?).

1161 Hold shows the phone call.

The snapshot shows the general goings on just as the Traverser is lined in place.

PZ03 rightaway shows the move signalled (to my knowledge) properly.

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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 06/06/2019 at 04:34 #118770
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The traverser must be locked at Road 7 before clearing the shunting signal on Road 7 or else the engine won't move.
Not sure if it is a bug or what.

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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 06/06/2019 at 06:46 #118773
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garylaw in post 118770 said:
The traverser must be locked at Road 7 before clearing the shunting signal on Road 7 or else the engine won't move.
Not sure if it is a bug or what.
Seems like a bug. I've also got this a few times when I forgot to lock the traverser in my hasty actions. I had to cancel and reset the route to get it to go normally. Notice that cancelling the route doesn't give an adverse change of signal in this case, which might also be a bug with the same underlying cause.

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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 07/06/2019 at 01:55 #118801
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I see, so it seems locking the Traverser is what prompts the train to recognize it has been switched.
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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 07/06/2019 at 19:27 #118816
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I imagine there is a separate locking indicator, visible to the driver. Standing instructions would be that no movements onto or off (or destabilising) the traverser are permitted unless it is locked in place.
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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 09/06/2019 at 10:28 #118863
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Following up with this, I'm now finding that unless you're *very prompt* about moving the traverser once the loco has moved onto it, it will complain about the exit signal for the track it *entered* on, rather than obeying the one the traverser is *currently* at, even if it is correctly locked in place.

To clear this condition, my present workaround is to instruct the driver to reverse. He will immediately reverse *twice* and come up facing the correct signal.

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Last edited: 09/06/2019 at 10:50 by Chromatix
Reason: Add screenshot and before/after saves.

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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 10/06/2019 at 01:27 #118871
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The engine will wait until its timetabled to move.
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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 11/06/2019 at 19:52 #118933
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Good evening, I have a problem with the Traverser. When I have to shunt PZ03 to the Traverser, I put the Traverser's frame and I lock it. So, I put the Traverser to the platform 5 but I can't put the signal at green. What I wrong?
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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 11/06/2019 at 20:08 #118934
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fabiolanzafame in post 118933 said:
Good evening, I have a problem with the Traverser. When I have to shunt PZ03 to the Traverser, I put the Traverser's frame and I lock it. So, I put the Traverser to the platform 5 but I can't put the signal at green. What I wrong?
It will be easier to work out what is not working if you could attach a saved game where the problem is happening.

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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 15/06/2019 at 08:47 #119000
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The engine will wait until its timetabled to move.
On the contrary, that is *not* what is happening in the "after" savegame I provided. It is several minutes before the engine is timetabled to move, but it has already called in complaining about the wrong signal being set against it.

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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 15/06/2019 at 13:51 #119005
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postal in post 118934 said:
fabiolanzafame in post 118933 said:
Good evening, I have a problem with the Traverser. When I have to shunt PZ03 to the Traverser, I put the Traverser's frame and I lock it. So, I put the Traverser to the platform 5 but I can't put the signal at green. What I wrong?
It will be easier to work out what is not working if you could attach a saved game where the problem is happening.

OK. I will attach the saved game.

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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 16/06/2019 at 02:27 #119010
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The traversers Panel needs to be unlocked. Its only locked when the Travers needs to be moved.
With the Traverser at Platform 5, you need to close the North security gate, Open South security gate, then go to the Traverser Panel and pull lever 1102. The signal clears, the engine PZ03 then moves onto the Traverser.

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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 03/07/2019 at 11:38 #119246
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I've raised Mantis 25802 to look at the original problem.

I have a hypothesis based on the way the traverser is implemented, which is too horrible to describe in public.

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Engine Stuck on the Traverser 05/07/2019 at 17:59 #119279
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clive in post 119246 said:
I've raised Mantis 25802 to look at the original problem.

I have a hypothesis based on the way the traverser is implemented, which is too horrible to describe in public.
This appears to have been correct; fixed in next release.

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