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Staffordshire FAQ 23/09/2019 at 00:14 #120546
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LS3571BR at Shugborough Tunnel (for Milford Jn Dn) is drawn on the Up line instead of the down. Is this intentional?

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Staffordshire FAQ 23/09/2019 at 10:02 #120548
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9pN1SEAp in post 120546 said:
LS3571BR at Shugborough Tunnel (for Milford Jn Dn) is drawn on the Up line instead of the down. Is this intentional?

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It looks to me as if there's a bar connecting the banners to the down line. Google Maps shows the line emerging from Shugborough Tunnel on a left-hand curve, so it would make sense if the banners are on the right hand side of the formation for sighting purposes.

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Staffordshire FAQ 23/09/2019 at 10:50 #120550
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9pN1SEAp in post 120546 said:
LS3571BR at Shugborough Tunnel (for Milford Jn Dn) is drawn on the Up line instead of the down. Is this intentional?

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They're connected with the stem to the down line, but yes they are drawn per the real workstation.

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Staffordshire FAQ 23/09/2019 at 20:00 #120551
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9pN1SEAp in post 120546 said:
LS3571BR at Shugborough Tunnel (for Milford Jn Dn) is drawn on the Up line instead of the down. Is this intentional?
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Staffordshire FAQ 15/01/2020 at 19:41 #122880
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Bug report - Similar to others - Overshoot at Stafford

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I'm running staffordshire with the 2019 downloaded timetable, no ARS and avoiding lines shut, Derby lines not active, and have had overshoots (into overlaps) on both P5 and P4, temp fix to to hold the starting signals at danger. Signallers normally clear the route prior to my arrival (WMT Guard) so our arrival speeds can be a little higher as the drivers are not approaching a red signal

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Staffordshire FAQ 21/03/2020 at 22:02 #123929
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pedroathome in post 120230 said:
I've double checked against the data, Yes there does appear to be some read through protection on Signal SC5611, which has been added for the next update. As I was looking at this, I have spotted another signal which appears to have the same protection

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I don't know if I've been away from SimSig too long or not played on it for a good while, but while enjoying a good session with the Staffordshire Sim I noticed the signals at Searchlight Lane Jn regarding the signals SC5611. If a route is set to DS shouldn't the signal opp be reverted to a red? As it works when the route is set to Stone the other signal is Red.
I apologise if I'm incorrect just haven't been on SimSig playing for a couple of months.


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Staffordshire FAQ 21/03/2020 at 22:21 #123930
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HST125Scorton in post 123929 said:
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I don't know if I've been away from SimSig too long or not played on it for a good while, but while enjoying a good session with the Staffordshire Sim I noticed the signals at Searchlight Lane Jn regarding the signals SC5611. If a route is set to DS shouldn't the signal opp be reverted to a red? As it works when the route is set to Stone the other signal is Red.
I apologise if I'm incorrect just haven't been on SimSig playing for a couple of months.

Turn on "Panel Signals" in the options. The signal will show green (or yellow) as appropriate if the following blocks are clear.

Turning on panel signals will grey out all the auto-signals so only signals you actually control show aspect.

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Staffordshire FAQ 21/03/2020 at 22:47 #123934
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HST125Scorton in post 123929 said:
pedroathome in post 120230 said:
I've double checked against the data, Yes there does appear to be some read through protection on Signal SC5611, which has been added for the next update. As I was looking at this, I have spotted another signal which appears to have the same protection

James
I don't know if I've been away from SimSig too long or not played on it for a good while, but while enjoying a good session with the Staffordshire Sim I noticed the signals at Searchlight Lane Jn regarding the signals SC5611. If a route is set to DS shouldn't the signal opp be reverted to a red? As it works when the route is set to Stone the other signal is Red.
I apologise if I'm incorrect just haven't been on SimSig playing for a couple of months.

That depends whether both signals are visible to a driver when reaching the junction itself. If the driver can't see both auto's at the same time, or in the lead up to the junction, that may not necessarily be the behaviour you'd expect.

Pedrick might be able to verify correct behaviour from the Control Tables.

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Staffordshire FAQ 22/03/2020 at 02:02 #123936
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Confirmation from Pedrick
There is only 1 route with the read through protection on it, which is the route for the Down Norton Bridge (SC5609 to NS4331). This route does replace SC5611 to danger.
When SC5609 is set to SC5611, NS4331 does not get replaced to danger.

In real life, the route to the down slow is pretty much dead straight, whereas the route onto the Down Norton Bridge curves round to the right. The signals are not next to each other in real life. Satellite view of the area is here

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Staffordshire FAQ 22/03/2020 at 12:39 #123941
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This was discussed earlier in the thread- see my post here for a YouTube video link which shows the signals in question.
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Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 14:49 #125223
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Hi folks, a returnee to Simsig so trying to get back into the swing of things (not that I was great at it before haha).

Anyway, I have invested in the Staffordshire sim (great work as always by those involved in the development of these fantastic sims) but have hit an issue that I'd like to learn a bit more about.

Basically, I have a Track Section Failure on the Stafford DS which is covering the Trent Valley junction and means that I cannot route anything on or off the Penkridge lines to and from Bushbury. From this I have the following questions:

1) Am I missing a way of actually setting routes off the lines through P4 and P5 at Stafford and towards Bushbury or is it just a case of having to sit it out until the TSF is fixed?
2) It is early in the TT (currently approaching 0100hrs) so things are quiet right now and I only have 6M73 sat on the Down Penkridge waiting to enter Stafford station but if this problem had occurred later in the day, I would undoubtedly have a backlog of XC, LNWR, VTWC/AWC and freights along the Bushbury route waiting to head towards Crewe or Stoke and also on the Up Stafford Slow with trains waiting to head towards Bushbury. When disruption has occurred between Stafford and Wolverhampton (in the real world), it has been known for XC to route some of their services along the TV route so I was wondering if there was a way to do something similar in Simsig without receiving a load of 'wrong route' messages and therefore reducing backlog.

There was a 3rd question in my mind but it's gone now so I will leave it at those 2 unless it comes back to me.

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Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 16:12 #125227
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In response to 2, you can abandon the trains timetable and then he will happily go anywhere you send him without complaint.

It’s hard to answer 1 without seeing what track circuit is failed and what routes are set in the area.

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Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 17:40 #125232
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Stephen Fulcher in post 125227 said:

It’s hard to answer 1 without seeing what track circuit is failed and what routes are set in the area.
I think that a screenshot would be helpfull in this instance and it might be worth just checking that 'Failure time length' and 'Minimum failure time' options aren't set too high as well. I got caught out early on by not adjusting the 'Failures' settings.

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Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 19:33 #125241
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A screenshot would show what I referred to yes.

Failure time length is irrelevant, the interlocking won’t change as a result of it, and therefore the query won’t have a different reply. Remember in reality there is no such option, if just depends on the actual cause of the fault and the Technicians ability.

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Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 20:08 #125244
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Stephen Fulcher in post 125241 said:
A screenshot would show what I referred to yes.

Failure time length is irrelevant, the interlocking won’t change as a result of it, and therefore the query won’t have a different reply. Remember in reality there is no such option, if just depends on the actual cause of the fault and the Technicians ability.
I know that the failure times are irrelevant as far as the interlocking is concerned.
The reason that I mentioned them was because if they aren't set low it would exacerbate the delay problems. Just wanted to make that point.

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Staffordshire FAQ 02/04/2020 at 00:47 #125284
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In regards to question 1 above, I would have to assume that track circuit TLSTM has failed with points PLS709 in the reverse position which also holds points PLS708 and PLS707 normal too.
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Staffordshire FAQ 08/05/2020 at 17:01 #126627
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Stephen Fulcher in post 125227 said:
In response to 2, you can abandon the trains timetable and then he will happily go anywhere you send him without complaint.

It’s hard to answer 1 without seeing what track circuit is failed and what routes are set in the area.
Is abandoning the trains timetable seen as the correct approach in situations where trains can be re-routed to avoid possible disruption even if it means missing out stations? I imagine it is not a decision that is taken lightly considering there will be people on the train who's destination will not be served

I should also add apologies for the lateness of my response. Thanks to everyone who responded and I fully understand that a screenshot would have helped - unfortunately by the time I realised this, the TSF had cleared but I will bear it in mind for future queries on here

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Staffordshire FAQ 08/05/2020 at 17:17 #126630
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mattja19 in post 126627 said:
Stephen Fulcher in post 125227 said:
In response to 2, you can abandon the trains timetable and then he will happily go anywhere you send him without complaint.

It’s hard to answer 1 without seeing what track circuit is failed and what routes are set in the area.
Is abandoning the trains timetable seen as the correct approach in situations where trains can be re-routed to avoid possible disruption even if it means missing out stations? I imagine it is not a decision that is taken lightly considering there will be people on the train who's destination will not be served

I should also add apologies for the lateness of my response. Thanks to everyone who responded and I fully understand that a screenshot would have helped - unfortunately by the time I realised this, the TSF had cleared but I will bear it in mind for future queries on here :)
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Staffordshire FAQ 09/05/2020 at 21:25 #126666
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mattja19 in post 126627 said:
Is abandoning the trains timetable seen as the correct approach in situations where trains can be re-routed to avoid possible disruption even if it means missing out stations? I imagine it is not a decision that is taken lightly considering there will be people on the train who's destination will not be served

When routing a train off the planned path, you can either edit the timetable ahead of time through the F2 train list window to skip any calls that will be missed. If the diversionary route doesn't skip any stations, then the train will often accept the route without query (the simulation manual should document what diversionary routes are acceptable). If neither of those apply, then the driver of the train will phone you to query the wrong route, there should then be an option to skip the missed stops and/or junction(s) as specified in the timetable, the call may be repeated multiple times if multiple stops need to be skipped.

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Staffordshire FAQ 23/10/2020 at 22:50 #133287
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Bradwell Esso Sidings

I have two trains 6K38 Ex Basford Hall to Bradwell Esso Sidings upon doing the timetable everything is all good no issues but when using the Analysis to check for errors hoping none would appear this appeared train 6K38 terminates with no onward working, so I added it return 6K39 but then it said it doesn't need it. So my question is should trains 'fall off' the sim at Bradwell Esso Sidings upon arrival?

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