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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 17/11/2019 at 18:39 #121746
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Are you running the latest version of the TT, IIRC 2A11 was inadvertently given the 10 car stock type as opposed to the 3 car one. I'm pretty sure this was correct in v1.1 of the TT however it is definately corrected in v1.2 which will appear with the next sim update
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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 17/11/2019 at 18:44 #121748
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General tab in F4 shows TT v1.1 - post release fixes but yes 2A11 is 10-car stock. Look forward to the update. Thanks.
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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 22/11/2019 at 20:16 #121849
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Reloading a save from before 2A11 entering the sim and having adjusted it to 377/3 train type solved this issue. Thanks for the help (and a very busy TT).
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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 22/11/2019 at 20:20 #121850
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Now up to 14:45 with this excellent TT and have an issue with the 0Y70 run-round at Redhill. Loco is sat at GPS T1320 with route set into P2 but the signal never clears. Loco eventually called in and was talked past said signal.

Possible bug ?

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 22/11/2019 at 20:29 #121852
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Javelin395 in post 121850 said:
Now up to 14:45 with this excellent TT and have an issue with the 0Y70 run-round at Redhill. Loco is sat at GPS T1320 with route set into P2 but the signal never clears. Loco eventually called in and was talked past said signal.

Possible bug ?
Assuming that platform 2 is occupied at the time, have you operated the track circuit override to allow T1320 to clear?

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 22/11/2019 at 20:59 #121855
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Doh !! Completely overlooked the provision of track circuit overrides. Cheers for the heads up there headshot !!
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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 24/11/2019 at 14:54 #121895
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Hi, I am loving the simulation Three Bridges.

I have encountered a couple of issues with the 2019 timetable:

One is that most Redhill-Reigate trains are routed into the DPL. I run them through platform 2 subsequently giving me an incorrect platform point in the performance analysis. Could I ask where they are supposed to be routed to avoid this? And why they aren't just booked into platform 2 anyway?

Another issue that I have found is that all trains coming from Lancing to Brighton are running late (4 minutes at Hove) and get more and more delayed while the train behind which is going to London is running on time but eventually being delayed by the service in front. I have played seven and a half hours and not a single one ran on time!

Any Assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 24/11/2019 at 16:22 #121896
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DPL at Reigate means down platform line which is also P1. So you can run straight in allow the reverse to take place and back out. IIRC there should be up workings through P2 around the same times
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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 24/11/2019 at 17:27 #121897
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Thanks for this, I thought I was routing trains wrongly as I got negative points in the performance analysis.
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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 25/11/2019 at 13:26 #121910
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Now up to 14:30 with this TT and have 2O40 not moving up to the blocks in P1 at Redhill causing its next working 2V67 to overhang the station starting signal T493. Using F2 and instructing this train to shunt forward clears the problem but why doesn't it move up to the blocks of its own accord ?

A save from 14:20 just before 2O40 arrives at Redhill is also available if anyone needs to try and recreate this issue.

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 25/11/2019 at 14:21 #121912
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I've also 3S92 duplicated with one entering from Crystal Palace immediately behind the other at 14:40 sim time. There was a similar instance prior to this but I forgot to note the details.
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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 27/11/2019 at 08:17 #121950
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Javelin395 in post 121910 said:
Now up to 14:30 with this TT and have 2O40 not moving up to the blocks in P1 at Redhill causing its next working 2V67 to overhang the station starting signal T493. Using F2 and instructing this train to shunt forward clears the problem but why doesn't it move up to the blocks of its own accord ?

A save from 14:20 just before 2O40 arrives at Redhill is also available if anyone needs to try and recreate this issue.
If Platform 1 is booked to be empty then NWR use P1 when there is no need to share it. I've just gone through the workings and adjusted a few of the sharers to P1A/B as necessary to ease the issue, that being said, in the event of late running you may still experience the same issue, can't really plan for that.

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 27/11/2019 at 08:24 #121951
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Javelin395 in post 121912 said:
I've also 3S92 duplicated with one entering from Crystal Palace immediately behind the other at 14:40 sim time. There was a similar instance prior to this but I forgot to note the details.
My fault on there being 2 was creating the seeds for the 1400 start somehow this one slipped through the net its quite safe to remove 3S92 (H34707S) as its not required.

If you remove 3S92 (H34707D) this will cause issues with the rules bringing further issues upon yourself

Fixes for both this and the Redhill P1 in the previous post issues fixed in main TT and will be available on the next update.

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 06/12/2019 at 19:55 #122122
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Not sure if it's something I've done but I'm finding this highly enjoyable timetable somewhat unmangeable after 23:00 (even at half speed). Am finding several platform clashes (eg 3Q22 and 3S93 at Haywards Heath) and issue with 5S36 being to long to route from Brighton P2 to WCR as per its TT.

Other clashes around East Croydon but I was so bogged down I failed to record the details (although I do have auto saves every 10minutes if that would help).

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 06/12/2019 at 20:55 #122123
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Another one... 5R54 and 5C72 are booked to join in P1 at Redhill but they don't fit behind T493.
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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 27/04/2020 at 00:50 #126348
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Edgemaster in post 120877 said:
Hilton Junction in post 120876 said:
Firstly I'll apologise if this should have been a stand alone thread.

I'm running the 2019 timetable & have train 6O47 in P1 at Haywards Heath. The loco was signalled ahead of signal T345 per the timetable notes. The Light Engine has detached & is in the spur waiting to run round & re-couple.

Hopefully my save has attached correctly & you will be able to see that I cannot set the route for the engine to run round due to the track remaining set from signal T345 across the points giving access to Down Siding South. I manually cancelled the route from T345 but the track will not drop out to allow me to shunt the engine. I've run the sim forward to 04:37 & the track still will not drop out.

Am I doing something wrong or will this need a fix?
This has already been noted in another thread, the issue is with getting the train to stop in exactly the right place with the loco beyond the platform starter, and the wagons in the platform with enough space for the loco to rejoin at rear. It's a tight move in reality, but SimSig seems to have some variation between runs where the train exactly stops. Some fiddling is being done with the next version of the timetable and sim to ensure this happens reliably.
Be aware, train 6V60 has another timetable similar to the above. At a recent Multiplayer session, 6V60's ARS timetable at Haywards Heath caused the host, consternation as the timetable was not suitable for the length of this train. ARS detached the loco and sent it into the Down Sidings but could not run around. The player at the station was not aware of the situation until it was to late to correct the errors.

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 27/04/2020 at 07:17 #126350
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BarryM in post 126348 said:


Be aware, train 6V60 has another timetable similar to the above. At a recent Multiplayer session, 6V60's ARS timetable at Haywards Heath caused the host, consternation as the timetable was not suitable for the length of this train. ARS detached the loco and sent it into the Down Sidings but could not run around. The player at the station was not aware of the situation until it was to late to correct the errors.
That could be (is) because 6V60 is the return working of 6O47 same moves and restrictions apply. I could have taken the easy way out and just shortened the train by a wagon, but thats not gonna happen anytime soon.

Its the same in all Three Bridges TTs

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 24/09/2020 at 16:51 #132666
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9R47 erroneously shown East Croydon P3, then South Croydon P5.
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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 24/09/2020 at 21:50 #132678
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Trainman525 in post 121895 said:
Hi, I am loving the simulation Three Bridges.

I have encountered a couple of issues with the 2019 timetable:

One is that most Redhill-Reigate trains are routed into the DPL. I run them through platform 2 subsequently giving me an incorrect platform point in the performance analysis. Could I ask where they are supposed to be routed to avoid this? And why they aren't just booked into platform 2 anyway?

Another issue that I have found is that all trains coming from Lancing to Brighton are running late (4 minutes at Hove) and get more and more delayed while the train behind which is going to London is running on time but eventually being delayed by the service in front. I have played seven and a half hours and not a single one ran on time!

Any Assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.
Related, but probably not a TT issue per se, all Down trains booked P2 at Redhill are flagged as routed off planned path.

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 03/10/2020 at 16:54 #132857
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Platform conflict at Brighton:-
2L59 arrives into Platform 8 at 2012, for 2021 dep.
8Y91 also shown to arrive into Platform 8 at 2016, for 2106 dep.

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 10/10/2020 at 18:10 #133016
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Platform conflict at Gatwick Airport:-
2O54/1V71 use Platform 5 arriving at 2253, for 2318 dep.
1C70 and 5B75 both booked to use the same platform, departing at 2309 and passing at 2316 respectively.

Platform conflict at East Croydon:-
3S92 booked to use Platform 4, arriving at 2304 for 2307 dep.
3Y90 booked to pass Platform 4 at 2305.

Platform conflict at Haywards Heath:-
3Q22 uses Platform 4 between 2318-2357.
3S93 booked to use Platform 4 between 2336-2346.

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Three Bridges SX 2019 01 09 14/10/2020 at 21:46 #133104
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wellgroomed in post 133016 said:
Platform conflict at Gatwick Airport:-
2O54/1V71 use Platform 5 arriving at 2253, for 2318 dep.
1C70 and 5B75 both booked to use the same platform, departing at 2309 and passing at 2316 respectively.

Platform conflict at East Croydon:-
3S92 booked to use Platform 4, arriving at 2304 for 2307 dep.
3Y90 booked to pass Platform 4 at 2305.

Platform conflict at Haywards Heath:-
3Q22 uses Platform 4 between 2318-2357.
3S93 booked to use Platform 4 between 2336-2346.
This and your previous post seem pretty realistic to the real world to me.

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