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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 28/02/2020 at 14:40 #123487
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I have uploaded and had approved a timetable for Central Scotland. It works with the present EGIP sim because I have made alteration to the platform workings to accommodate the service into platforms that are not the same lengths as the present day Glasgow Queen Street. Likewise, I have had to use Class 385 units that are shown as of diesel traction because the electrification limits of the sim do not represent the extent of the electrification in real life.

Special attention needs to be paid in working the approaches to Glasgow Queen Street as there are some tight timings.

Any problems post them here, otherwise have fun!

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 10:38 #123493
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Giantray in post 123487 said:
I have uploaded and had approved a timetable for Central Scotland. It works with the present EGIP sim because I have made alteration to the platform workings to accommodate the service into platforms that are not the same lengths as the present day Glasgow Queen Street. Likewise, I have had to use Class 385 units that are shown as of diesel traction because the electrification limits of the sim do not represent the extent of the electrification in real life.

Special attention needs to be paid in working the approaches to Glasgow Queen Street as there are some tight timings.

Any problems post them here, otherwise have fun!
We discussed this in another thread - the platform lengths in EGIP are the EGIP platform lengths, save for P1 which I've fixed.
There are new builds waiting for Geoff's clearance to release.

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 15:15 #123498
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Moderator Note

Can the regular suspects please refrain from derailing every Central Scotland thread asking about an update for the simulation which has already been answered many times before in other threads.

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 16:09 #123499
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headshot119 in post 123498 said:
Moderator Note

Can the regular suspects please refrain from derailing every Central Scotland thread asking about an update for the simulation which has already been answered many times before in other threads.
That's me telt….

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 16:40 #123500
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Not sure if I am doing something wrong, but I cannot gat the sim to start with seeded trains at 04:45. it starts at midnight with services seeded at Stirling. Any ideas?
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 16:45 #123501
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Works fine for me. You aren't changing any settings on starting the simulation, are you?
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 16:55 #123503
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Steamer in post 123501 said:
Works fine for me. You aren't changing any settings on starting the simulation, are you?

I don't think so, I am having trouble getting things to start. I have this issue before. I seem to have no timetable loaded. No rules yet the old timetables are fine.

When I do get it started with trains seeded it is 00.00?

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 16:56 #123504
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What version of the Loader are you using?
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 17:04 #123505
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V4.15.1

I have had to reinstall windows but everything else is ok.

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 17:08 #123506
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When you start the Loader and select the timetable, what start time is shown?
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 17:10 #123507
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It should look like this:


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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 17:22 #123510
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Steamer in post 123507 said:
It should look like this:




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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 17:45 #123512
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I do not have the same info in the box about the timetable.
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 21:48 #123514
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That's bizarre- the description's gone missing as well.

When you installed the timetable, did you do anything other than dropping it in to the folder C:\Users\Public\Documents\SimSig\\Timetables\cscot\ ?

You haven't used the Open/Merge function and then re-saved it, have you? That's the only thing I can think of that would cause the TT to lose the description and start time.

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 29/02/2020 at 22:04 #123515
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Tynie, download the file again. I've just checked it and the file is perfectly fine with a description and 0445 start time.
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 01/03/2020 at 14:03 #123518
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Steamer in post 123514 said:
That's bizarre- the description's gone missing as well.

When you installed the timetable, did you do anything other than dropping it in to the folder C:\Users\Public\Documents\SimSig\\Timetables\cscot\ ?

You haven't used the Open/Merge function and then re-saved it, have you? That's the only thing I can think of that would cause the TT to lose the description and start time.
I did.

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 01/03/2020 at 14:24 #123519
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Steamer in post 123514 said:
That's bizarre- the description's gone missing as well.

When you installed the timetable, did you do anything other than dropping it in to the folder C:\Users\Public\Documents\SimSig\\Timetables\cscot\ ?

You haven't used the Open/Merge function and then re-saved it, have you? That's the only thing I can think of that would cause the TT to lose the description and start time.
I think its working now 04:45 seeded services at Stirling

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 01/03/2020 at 15:39 #123520
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all ok.
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 05/03/2020 at 16:03 #123578
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Giantray in post 123487 said:
I have uploaded and had approved a timetable for Central Scotland. It works with the present EGIP sim because I have made alteration to the platform workings to accommodate the service into platforms that are not the same lengths as the present day Glasgow Queen Street. Likewise, I have had to use Class 385 units that are shown as of diesel traction because the electrification limits of the sim do not represent the extent of the electrification in real life.

Special attention needs to be paid in working the approaches to Glasgow Queen Street as there are some tight timings.

Any problems post them here, otherwise have fun!
Love this Sim. Really busy. Not a major issue 1P07 goes to Dunblane not Alloa


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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 07/03/2020 at 09:30 #123605
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The majority of timing points are marked as stopping times which is delaying every train.
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 08/03/2020 at 10:02 #123625
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mfloyd in post 123605 said:
The majority of timing points are marked as stopping times which is delaying every train.
Yes I had noticed this and at present I'm amending them. Going to take a while to amend over 800 trains, once done I will issue a new version.

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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 09/03/2020 at 10:28 #123647
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Version 2.0.0 has been sent for approval. I have removed all the arrival times from passing times in train schedules.
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 09/03/2020 at 10:51 #123651
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Giantray in post 123647 said:
Version 2.0.0 has been sent for approval. I have removed all the arrival times from passing times in train schedules.
That's not going to make a difference, you need to set the departure/pass timings to PASS. Otherwise trains will still stop at those locations until booked time.


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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 09/03/2020 at 15:51 #123660
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They were already set as passing times (box ticked!), but originally had arrival times too. It was suggested in this thread that having arrrival times and passing times meant trains were stopping and causing delay. I originally noticed I had the arrivals times too, but I thought it didn't make any difference, but I have been told different.
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Central Scotland 2020 (0445 start) 09/03/2020 at 17:19 #123662
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Giantray in post 123660 said:
They were already set as passing times (box ticked!), but originally had arrival times too. It was suggested in this thread that having arrrival times and passing times meant trains were stopping and causing delay. I originally noticed I had the arrivals times too, but I thought it didn't make any difference, but I have been told different.
As long as the pass box is ticked, specifying an arrival time won't affect train behaviour.

Hap- I've downloaded the latest version and checked 1A47, the Greenhill Upper timing shows as a pass time for me?

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