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Unavoidable Impasse? 09/03/2020 at 02:07 #123642
VInce
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Hi all,

During yet another run through of yet another version of Peterborough 1977, I appear to have hit a situation which has never occurred in over 2 years of testing and running this time table. I'm unsure as to whether it is a sim issue, a timetable issue or a core-code issue so I'll leave this here for others more knowledgeable than myself to decide.

I have a situation with 5B37, an ECS movement from Peterborough P5 to Nene CS (in theory for servicing and to attach a BSK) being refused by Nene CS. In my experience refusal normally means that there is a train about to be offered out of the siding. 1B37 arrived 28 late at 1549, the shunt engine has attached, the train engine has detached and 5B37 was ready to depart to Nene CS at around 1600.

The only train due to leave Nene CS at this time is 5C19 at 1620, but that is dependant on the arrival of 5B37 which is the same stock.

I have reached 1625 and I suspect that we have reached a situation where 5B37 will never be accepted and 5C18 will never appear due to the rule (which has worked perfectly for several years) saying:-

5C18MO/ZED412 must appear 25 minutes after 5B37MO/ZCB422 leaves the area.

So is there a problem here or am I making too many assumptions?

Incidentally, does the core-code take this situation in account when a train is refused?

Vince

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Last edited: 09/03/2020 at 02:58 by VInce
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Unavoidable Impasse? 09/03/2020 at 06:42 #123644
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What do you mean by refused?
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Unavoidable Impasse? 09/03/2020 at 10:34 #123648
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Have you got a save game that we could have a look at?
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Unavoidable Impasse? 09/03/2020 at 10:34 #123649
VInce
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Hello Peter,

When the train is offered to Nene CS, the response to "can train enter?" is "not right now".

Vince

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Unavoidable Impasse? 09/03/2020 at 10:39 #123650
VInce
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y10g9 in post 123648 said:
Have you got a save game that we could have a look at?
Three saves attached, 1600, 1610 and 1620.

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Unavoidable Impasse? 12/03/2020 at 12:17 #123715
VInce
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Hi all,

Has anyone come to any conclusions about this?

Vince

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Unavoidable Impasse? 12/03/2020 at 14:01 #123717
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VInce in post 123715 said:


Has anyone come to any conclusions about this?

It's on my "when I have time" list.

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Unavoidable Impasse? 12/03/2020 at 14:33 #123718
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In other words, "Not right now"
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Unavoidable Impasse? 15/03/2020 at 00:23 #123749
VInce
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Hi all,

Since whatever issue is causing this (and I've spent hours trying to find out what changed between the two versions that caused this to happen) I am testing a work around, which will involve a number of replatformings and 1B37 / 1C18 remaining in the station.

This will take me a few days.

Vince

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Unavoidable Impasse? 21/07/2020 at 16:54 #129844
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(See also the other thread.)

"not right now" means the "train about to enter at Nene" flag is set in the sim. This flag is set when a train is ready to enter (about the time that you get a phone call, but not exactly) and cleared when the train actually enters the sim. Something has gone wrong with that flag, but I don't know what.

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