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West Croydon P1 peak use in 2012 16/04/2020 at 20:31 #125898
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Hi peeps

A query that I've got during testing. According to diagrams and CWN, some SN peak West Croydon's to London Bridge were 10 car 377's formed of 377/3 377/3 377/2 and in 2012 were tt'd to use P1.

As in the sim P1 in 10m too short (assume it's the correct length) for this formation does anyone know what used to happen at the time with these SNs. (I know nowadays SN's use turnback and P3 but in 2012 SN's used P1 LO's used the turnback and P3.)

I should really know being a yocal but only ever catch from ECR

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Gareth

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West Croydon P1 peak use in 2012 16/04/2020 at 21:35 #125907
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Is it an aberration in the CWN? All references to platform length at West Croydon show it as 194m without any evidence of it being lengthened at any point
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West Croydon P1 peak use in 2012 17/04/2020 at 09:00 #125915
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JamesN in post 125907 said:
Is it an aberration in the CWN? All references to platform length at West Croydon show it as 194m without any evidence of it being lengthened at any point
Thanks James, I'll have another look at the timings (has tight turnarounds) and what's on the through plats as they might have put it into P3

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West Croydon P1 peak use in 2012 18/04/2020 at 13:38 #125985
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JamesN in post 125907 said:
Is it an aberration in the CWN? All references to platform length at West Croydon show it as 194m without any evidence of it being lengthened at any point
In the current WTT (albeit permanent workings superseded by current events), Saturday night's 2S95 00:20 London Bridge to West Croydon (booked 4+3+3 377) is booked into platform 1.

The CWN is correct - I'm not sure what the revised length of platform 1 at WCY was made out to be, but a 10.377 formation definitely fits - and I do recall the 2012 peak workings when the 377/6 fleet were new to Southern.

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West Croydon P1 peak use in 2012 18/04/2020 at 14:04 #125987
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markt in post 125985 said:
JamesN in post 125907 said:
Is it an aberration in the CWN? All references to platform length at West Croydon show it as 194m without any evidence of it being lengthened at any point
In the current WTT (albeit permanent workings superseded by current events), Saturday night's 2S95 00:20 London Bridge to West Croydon (booked 4+3+3 377) is booked into platform 1.

The CWN is correct - I'm not sure what the revised length of platform 1 at WCY was made out to be, but a 10.377 formation definitely fits - and I do recall the 2012 peak workings when the 377/6 fleet were new to Southern.
Having reviewed some satellite imagery, it appears to have been lengthened at the buffer-stops end by 11m between April 2011 and March 2012, which would enable 10/377. The impedence bond in the platform doesn't appear to have been moved and thus we can infer that only the buffer-stop end TC has been lengthened.

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West Croydon P1 peak use in 2012 18/04/2020 at 18:33 #125999
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JamesN in post 125987 said:
markt in post 125985 said:

In the current WTT (albeit permanent workings superseded by current events), Saturday night's 2S95 00:20 London Bridge to West Croydon (booked 4+3+3 377) is booked into platform 1.

The CWN is correct - I'm not sure what the revised length of platform 1 at WCY was made out to be, but a 10.377 formation definitely fits - and I do recall the 2012 peak workings when the 377/6 fleet were new to Southern.
Having reviewed some satellite imagery, it appears to have been lengthened at the buffer-stops end by 11m between April 2011 and March 2012, which would enable 10/377. The impedence bond in the platform doesn't appear to have been moved and thus we can infer that only the buffer-stop end TC has been lengthened.
Thanks Mark and James,

In light of this is it possible to put it on to Mantis for the TC length to be changed in a next update to the sim

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Gareth

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West Croydon P1 peak use in 2012 18/04/2020 at 18:52 #126000
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Initial Mantis 29160 passed onto Geoff for TC extension
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West Croydon P1 peak use in 2012 18/04/2020 at 20:32 #126004
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Sorry Gareth forgot to mention I’d stuck it on mantis earlier, John has quoted the ticket number.
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West Croydon P1 peak use in 2012 25/04/2020 at 09:17 #126289
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My memory is a little hazy, but I’m sure you could always fit a 10car in the bay but not 2X5car or any or 6 on 4 or vice versa as there was no standing distance between the cabs until the buffer stops were pushed back.
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