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[NotABug] Chaining with Leeds Ardsley

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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 08/06/2020 at 00:34 #127404
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West Yorkshire doesn't chain correctly with Leeds Ardsley at Wakefield Westgate.

Trains do not transfer over correctly.

They do at Hare Jn but not Wakefield Westgate

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Chaining with West Yorkshire 08/06/2020 at 01:16 #127406
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Already logged on Mantis by you and me previously, although I can't say I've been able to reproduce it not working. trains from Wyorks enter off planned path and wont become ARS until they reach westgate, but other than that I've had no issues. I've also hosted a chained session and we had the LNE chain a few weeks back that also worked successfully.
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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 08/06/2020 at 08:32 #127409
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Any more Gen on this? We ran a public mega chain a couple of weeks ago with no problems. Save files, in what way are they not crossing over properly?
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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 08/06/2020 at 08:58 #127410
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Hap in post 127409 said:
Any more Gen on this? We ran a public mega chain a couple of weeks ago with no problems. Save files, in what way are they not crossing over properly?
https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/50840

I couldn't be bothered to reply to both of what is essentially a duplicate post.

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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 08/06/2020 at 11:07 #127412
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We would need further information on exactly what the issue is you have been experiencing.

What simulation versions are you using? What loader version are you using? Do you have save games available which demonstrate the issue?

We ran several hours of these chained together during one of the mega chain games and I don't recall having any issues with trains moving from one simulation to another, except you had to kick ARS on the Leeds A side.

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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 09/06/2020 at 11:48 #127446
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As someone who spent time on both Wakefield Pannel West Yorks and Leeds Ardsley during aforementiioned mega chain, I experienced no issues sending or recieving trains.
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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 22/06/2020 at 12:03 #127786
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I will have to double check, Gents. The last time I tried, the 1st train 2Y46/G60800S, didn't come back in Leeds Ardsley correctly, after passing through West Yorkshire (Hare Pk Jn - Crofton West Jn - Calder Bridge Jn - Wakefield Westgate - Wakefield Kirkgate). It wouldn't take a timetable and wouldn't become ARS.

My sim version should be up to date, I update whenever they pop up.

Loader Version 4.15.1 ;
Leeds Ardsley is data version 1.8 ;
West Yorkshire is data version 2.3

I believe the issue is the gap where it (2Y46) leave the Sim then returns and in all honesty, I've not continued the chain and checked with later services. I'm going to try that today or tomorrow.

I'm happy to be wrong in this as this is the only reason I never add Leeds Ardsley to my big Chains.

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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 22/06/2020 at 14:17 #127790
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Although this can't be reproduced by myself, can you send in the saves/snap shots from the chain for around the time this happens?
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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 22/06/2020 at 20:58 #127801
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The recent 10 hour Yorkshire Mega chain didnt have any issues with the two sims.

Did you start from a save with a train in the fringe area ??

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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 29/07/2020 at 16:24 #130101
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Still not automatically transferring their WTT over to Leeds Ardsley from West Yorkshire

They can be assigned a WTT once they transfer over but they won't be accepted by Leeds Ardsley ARS.


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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 29/07/2020 at 17:05 #130105
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Guts in post 130101 said:
Still not automatically transferring their WTT over to Leeds Ardsley from West Yorkshire

They can be assigned a WTT once they transfer over but they won't be accepted by Leeds Ardsley ARS.

Guts, Please could you provide a couple save games for both sims involved, ideally 1 set before the train enters Ardsley and a second set for after the train has entered Ardsley. We haven't been able to reproduce this from fresh starts of the sims with the 2009 V1.5 TT for Ardsley and 2009 V1.3 TT for West Yorkshire (Both being the latest releases of the respective TTs)

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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 29/07/2020 at 19:00 #130120
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These are the saved files

Top two files are West Yorkshire and bottom two are Leeds Ardsley

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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 29/07/2020 at 19:03 #130121
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Guts in post 130120 said:
These are the saved files

Top two files are West Yorkshire and bottom two are Leeds Ardsley
Neither of these saves use the shipped timetables. The Leeds Ardsley one is full of errors and warnings which is why you are having an issue.

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Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 29/07/2020 at 19:47 #130124
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Guts in post 130120 said:
These are the saved files

Top two files are West Yorkshire and bottom two are Leeds Ardsley
Thanks for the saves Guts

In the version you are running, all trains that enter at Wakefield Kirkgate have invalid TTs. This is why they are not picking up when they are transferred between the sims. If you ran in standalone, you would find that they would not enter at Kirkgate. Both trains you have mentioned also have 'Non-ARS upon entry' ticked, so if the timetables were valid, the train would still enter non ARS.

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[NotABug] Chaining with Leeds Ardsley 29/07/2020 at 23:13 #130149
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Timetable sorted. Thanks
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