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Sandy Yard Hand points use. 19/06/2020 at 16:43 #127704
bugsy
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Hope that you don't think that this is a stupid question but I'm going to ask it anyway.

Shortly after 08:40 I had trouble getting 6B30 into Sandy Down Yard. I inadvertently sent it into the loop because I forgot to set the Hand Points to Reverse (as per the Manual). As a consequence, it straddled the points when it stopped as it was too long to fit. Re-ran from an earlier save and got it in by doing what I should have done in the first place i.e. set the Hand Points to Reverse.

It’s now 09:25 and 6B30 wants to leave the sidings and head for Hitchen. As I’d set the Hand Points for it to get into the sidings, I thought it necessary to set them for the trains’ exit but this wasn’t the case.
Are the points of a type where they don’t have to be set for a converging route?
Just seems a bit odd although those 'in the know' might think otherwise.

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Sandy Yard Hand points use. 19/06/2020 at 17:57 #127705
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Bugsy

Not sure if the core code acknowledges, but in real life certainly in times gone past it was considered fair game for hand points to be run through in the trailing direction. No locks fitted and only springs in effect holding them in place.

In modern times the PWSM's (Permanent Way Section Manager's) tend to hold a different view and require all points to face correctly at all times.

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Sandy Yard Hand points use. 19/06/2020 at 21:19 #127707
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Thanks for your reply Paul.

I can imagine that this practice was fairly widespread in sidings years ago

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Sandy Yard Hand points use. 20/06/2020 at 08:47 #127713
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bugsy in post 127707 said:
Thanks for your reply Paul.

I can imagine that this practice was fairly widespread in sidings years ago :)
You bet!!! Don't think I ever saw a set of hand points set for a trailing move.

In Bescot Yard there are (or were) point mechanisms of an American design that aren't trailable. There's a special note in the Sectional Appendix that they must always be set for trailing moves over them.

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Sandy Yard Hand points use. 20/06/2020 at 09:20 #127714
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Those American hand points are becoming more common now
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Sandy Yard Hand points use. 20/06/2020 at 10:20 #127715
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DriverCurran in post 127705 said:
Not sure if the core code acknowledges, but in real life certainly in times gone past it was considered fair game for hand points to be run through in the trailing direction. No locks fitted and only springs in effect holding them in place.
We still trail through points on Stockport Sidings and on Longsight (as do Metrolink on their depots) - however if a reversing move is to be made with a train/tram coming to a stand on top of trailing points before reversing, those points must be set for the move or else the train must continue to move until clear (basically they need to be visually seen to be set correctly, not easy to do with a train/tram sat on top of them).

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