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2019 Era Bugs/Observations

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 27/06/2020 at 15:07 #128220
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A couple of bugs/oddities I've encountered in the 2019 era:

- MP703 on the Down Liverpool is behaving as though it's approach controlled
- Auto routes on the Chat Moss Line (MP543/544) aren't working
- Trains booked to enter on the Down Ordsall Curve don't enter - the slot won't grant either by clicking the roundel or setting a route
- Sending a train from MP506 to MP524 (Salford Crescent P1 to the Down Bolton) leaves the trains description at MP506
- MP455 and MP461 should both have banner repeaters
- Various banners and new speeds missing from the Bolton line, but I presume this is as the update only has limited data and is more about playability.

And a couple of driver observations, which are based on what I see from the not-so-pointy end and may be disproved by the hard data:
- I don't think MP33 can show double yellow for routes to the Styal line; I've only ever seen it step from single yellow to green.
- When routes are cancelled in the Longsight/Slade Lane area, I don't the previous signal's aspect will revert back to red as well (eg if a route from MP64 is cancelled, MP42 won't drop to red to avoid ACOA).
- The train stop boards on Piccadilly 13/14 have been adjusted so that trains of four cars or less clear the [very short] mid-platform overlaps and allow another train to occupy the B end of the platform. The second train will not release doors there unless instructed to, and will move to the A end when the signals allow. Possibly not that easy to adjust in the sim without trains using the B end to set down and pick up.

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 27/06/2020 at 15:19 #128223
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Logged on Mantis as #30893 for attention.

A couple of them where already on there.

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 27/06/2020 at 16:09 #128232
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Splodge in post 128220 said:

- MP455 and MP461 should both have banner repeaters
I assume you mean 461 and 463? Unless it's a very new addition, 455 doesn't have a BR.

Should start at 25:29:

https://youtu.be/G1_x21mCfoE?t=1529

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 27/06/2020 at 16:15 #128233
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Yep - confused myself!

455 is a notorious SPAD trap thanks to the visibility of 461's BR

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 27/06/2020 at 23:22 #128348
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The banner for MN614 on the Up Chat Moss shows as the old style static 'B'; the one for the adjacent line (MN652) displays correctly
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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 27/06/2020 at 23:55 #128351
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Splodge in post 128348 said:
The banner for MN614 on the Up Chat Moss shows as the old style static 'B'; the one for the adjacent line (MN652) displays correctly
Both should be displayed as B. They're controlled by an external box. I'll get it logged.

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 27/06/2020 at 23:58 #128352
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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 28/06/2020 at 13:00 #128398
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A train is awaiting a replacement driver at Salford Crescent. The following service is due into Victoria from the Bolton line - I've opted to send it non stop but haven't (yet) edited the TT.

The train, despite having a clear aspect onto the Up Bolton Through, initially phoned to complain of a red signal, and did not query the route (so I couldn't tell it to bypass or abandon TT). The F2 window shows just "stops at Salford Crescent" with no further information about where it is stopped signal-wise or what it's issue is. After waiting the requested two minutes, it did call to query the route as expected.

The following train behaved as I'd expect.

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 29/06/2020 at 13:22 #128516
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The offending signal was MP510 - not sure how I missed that vital bit of info!

And speaking of MP510 - it isn't as restrictively approach controlled into Salford Crescent any more, it can now give an immediate single yellow for the route into platform 2 - but again, there are a number of signalling changes in that area which may not have been covered by the data for 2019.

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 29/06/2020 at 14:05 #128518
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Splodge in post 128516 said:

And speaking of MP510 - it isn't as restrictively approach controlled into Salford Crescent any more, it can now give an immediate single yellow for the route into platform 2 - but again, there are a number of signalling changes in that area which may not have been covered by the data for 2019.
I've already logged that (#30853), but thanks for confirming- I was 95% sure it was approach released from Yellow now, but I haven't been into Manchester for a while.

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 04/07/2020 at 13:13 #129002
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I've also just discovered (innocent whistling) that trains for the Darwen line will call wrong route if sent into platform 4 at Bolton - but not if sent into platform 5
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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 05/07/2020 at 21:18 #129104
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I have a train booked to reverse in Deansgate P1 (Manchester Oxford Road P3 > Deansgate P1 (Rev) > Manchester Oxford Road P5). Unfortunately it isn't aware of its reversal so asks to continue towards Water St Jn
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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 10/07/2020 at 23:21 #129457
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Another small one when setting a route from MP 575 (Up Chat Moss) - MP 503 (Down Bolton)
The White line stops on TC "TSAI & TSAG" it appears for a split second but vanishes, this a bug?

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2019 Era Bugs/Observations 11/07/2020 at 11:39 #129467
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elltrain3 in post 129457 said:
Another small one when setting a route from MP 575 (Up Chat Moss) - MP 503 (Down Bolton)
The White line stops on TC "TSAI & TSAG" it appears for a split second but vanishes, this a bug?
Good spot, Mantis #31068

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