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Manchester Piccadilly - timetable updates 10/11/2020 at 13:01 #133763
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As I have (again) rather more time on my hands than expected, the various "heritage" timetables for Manchester are getting checked and enhanced where necessary to take advantage of revised location data/ routes introduced with the ARS version of Piccadilly.

Westhoughton (Metal Box) trip freights are being added where information is available. I am so far only missing data for 1993: if anyone has the information, please message me! Arrangements for loco changes in Longsight DGL and light electric loco moves into Longsight depot will also get attention where appropriate.

Watch the Downloads section for new versions. Current revisions are:
1991 - V2.1: available for download
1996 - V2.1: submitted to Mods for approval
Both those timetables can be used with ARS enabled, though it isn't recommended.

1989 will be next up, probably followed in reverse date order from 1977 (because it's my favourite timetable!) to 1969.

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Manchester Piccadilly - timetable updates 13/11/2020 at 13:39 #133818
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Small update as of 13/11/2020

1991 & 1996 V2.1 available for download
1993 - need information on Westhoughton trips before update possible
1989 - Northern Part V3.1 available for download
1989 - Whole Picture V3.1 with Mods for approval
1989 - Southern Part does not need updates, so remains at the currently available release, V3.0

Work now starts on the 1977 timetables.

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Manchester Piccadilly - timetable updates 13/11/2020 at 15:03 #133819
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whatlep in post 133818 said:

1993 - need information on Westhoughton trips before update possible
I've got a 1992 trip notice with these in. When did Westhoughton Metalbox GF sneak into the Sim?

I'll sort out the details and PM you when I get a chance.

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Manchester Piccadilly - timetable updates 14/11/2020 at 18:43 #133863
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Manchester Piccadilly - timetable updates 14/11/2020 at 23:46 #133869
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jc92 in post 133819 said:
whatlep in post 133818 said:

1993 - need information on Westhoughton trips before update possible
I've got a 1992 trip notice with these in. When did Westhoughton Metalbox GF sneak into the Sim?

I'll sort out the details and PM you when I get a chance.
Thank you! I think Westhoughton was one of several changes made in the ARS release. I'll confess I hadn't noticed it for several weeks either! Starting to wonder what else I might have missed....

EDIT - seems a most odd and expensive way of doing the trip. Light engine move Westhoughton-Manchester in the morning and back again in the afternoon. Still, makes for more fun moves in SimSig....

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Manchester Piccadilly - timetable updates 16/11/2020 at 23:21 #133926
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Update as of 17/11/2020

1991 & 1996 V2.1 available for download
1993 - V3.0 submitted to the Mods for approval (*)
1989 - Northern Part V3.1 available for download
1989 - Whole Picture V3.1 available for download
1989 - Southern Part does not need updates, so remains at the currently available release, V3.0
1977 - Summer Saturday does not need updates, so remains at the currently available release, V2.0
1977 - Summer Weekday V2.1 submitted to Mods for approval

(*) - 1993 has been revised both to add new trains and to enable full ARS use, though this is not recommended. Testing of the 1990s' simulations suggests that ARS can work OK on the lines from Ordsall Lane northwards, with the exception of the Westhoughton trip. Between Piccadilly and Manchester Airport, ARS appears to introduce as many problems as it solves, as detailed in the timetable notes.

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Manchester Piccadilly - timetable updates 21/11/2020 at 00:56 #134010
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Quick update as of 20/11/2020

All "heritage" timetables have now been updated as required and are available for download. The main improvements are:

1969-1977 - diesel locos off up freights changing traction in Longsight U&DGL head to Longsight depot, not Stockport. Down Freightliners heading for Longsight FLT (wheel lathe site) reverse in Longsight Down Goods Loop, not Mayfield.
April 1989 (Northern & Whole Picture) - Westhoughton trip freight added
1991/1993/1996 - fully ARS enabled: Westhoughton trip freight added as appropriate.

Known bugs or typos also fixed, but doubtless there'll be more. If the latest version of a timetable is earlier than November 2020, no updates were found necessary.

I hope users enjoy these timetables. I am exploring another possible one for Piccadilly, but no hints yet as it may prove impossible due to lack of source material.

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