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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 25/02/2021 at 17:59 #137464
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Hi all!

I’m very pleased to announce my new timetable for the Swindon / Didcot area. It is a realistic timetable for a Monday in February 2021 and includes the WTT, STP and some last-minute extras.

With 564 trains, you can be assured things get busy during the day. When everything is running smoothly, ARS will take care of almost everything. Add some disturbances, and you’ll be up for some interesting work. :)

The new timetable can be downloaded here.

If you have any questions, comments or suggestions to make the timetable even better, I’d be happy to hear from you.

Enjoy!

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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 27/02/2021 at 10:53 #137487
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3P92 has a stop at Wantage Road, should be passing time instead?
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 27/02/2021 at 11:08 #137489
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In the LTP it’s shown 0533 PASS, although I don’t know specifically which TT this is based upon.
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 27/02/2021 at 11:26 #137490
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Thanks. It has a 05:31 stop (without arrival time) in this TT, so that should probably be pass as it isn't being overtaken.

6A25 needs passing time ticked at Steventon. EDIT: 6M50 at Melksham also has an unexpected stop.

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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 27/02/2021 at 17:06 #137500
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Have the platforms been lengthened at Swindon? 1L64's tail blocks the way for 2G81.
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 01/03/2021 at 19:15 #137539
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6M50 has more unexpected stops in its TT, it is also scheduled to call at Steventon, Milton Jn and Foxhall Jn.
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 01/03/2021 at 20:20 #137540
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Ive made a patch for 7B12, hope it works!
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 02/03/2021 at 18:37 #137552
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Thanks for your replies!

Albert in post 137490 said:
Thanks. It has a 05:31 stop (without arrival time) in this TT, so that should probably be pass as it isn't being overtaken.
Should be a 05:33 pass at Wantage Road indeed. If I set it to ‘pass’ in the sim, ARS doesn’t function the way it should though. ARS will set a path to Didcot platform 4 right away, while 3P92 should wait for 2J05 to arrive and depart... If there’s any way to fix this other than have 3P92 stop at Wantage Road, I’d be happy to hear about it.

Albert in post 137500 said:
Have the platforms been lengthened at Swindon? 1L64's tail blocks the way for 2G81.
According to the latest TPR the *useful* length of P1 is 261 m - with a track section of ~320 m between switches - so that should easily accommodate 2x 5-car Class 800s. No idea why it doesn't in the sim. I'll change it to a single Class 800 in version 1.1.

Albert in post 137490 said:
6A25 needs passing time ticked at Steventon. EDIT: 6M50 at Melksham also has an unexpected stop.

Albert in post 137539 said:
6M50 has more unexpected stops in its TT, it is also scheduled to call at Steventon, Milton Jn and Foxhall Jn.
Thanks, I'll amend these in version 1.1. Seems something went wrong with importing the timetable of 6M50. :)

albie vowles in post 137540 said:
Ive made a patch for 7B12, hope it works!
Haha, what you’re trying is exactly what made me put 7B12 into Cocklebury Sidings. I don’t think you can get a train running in up direction (even it’s going wrong way on the down line) into Down Goods / Swindon East Loop with ARS on. It would be great if someone found a solution to this!

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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 02/03/2021 at 18:55 #137553
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Note that I'm running mostly without ARS so I don't catch ARS problems.

6U41 has a 'set down' at Milton Jn before calling in the loop at Steventon. I'd expect you want to get the train clear of the fast line as soon as possible; what is this set down for?

Koen in post 137552 said:

According to the latest TPR the *useful* length of P1 is 261 m - with a track section of ~320 m between switches - so that should easily accommodate 2x 5-car Class 800s. No idea why it doesn't in the sim. I'll change it to a single Class 800 in version 1.1.
The track circuit TSEG between signal 48 and 71 has a length of 250 m in-sim; for platform 3 it is 280 m between signals.

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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 03/03/2021 at 21:24 #137590
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Sorry, heres an update to the patch! EDIT: oops here it is! EDIT 2: heres ARS proof, check if you dont believe me!
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 03/03/2021 at 21:29 #137591
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btw i was determined to get it to work!
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 06/03/2021 at 13:09 #137662
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I would suggest to let either 5P50 or 4L32 use the GL instead of RL at Didcot West End / Foxhall Jn, as currently both want to use the RL at the same time.
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 07/03/2021 at 14:39 #137680
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Koen in post 137552 said:
P1 [at Swindon]... should easily accommodate 2x 5-car Class 800s. No idea why it doesn't in the sim.
In the meanwhile I found proof on YouTube -> This video shows two 5-car Class 800's arriving at platform 1 from approx. 16m30s onwards.

Albert in post 137553 said:
6U41 has a 'set down' at Milton Jn before calling in the loop at Steventon. I'd expect you want to get the train clear of the fast line as soon as possible;
Yes, exactly. Without set down ARS will just let 6U41 sit on the main line when it’s running early, blocking all other trains.

albie vowles in post 137590 said:
Sorry, heres an update to the patch! EDIT: oops here it is! EDIT 2: heres ARS proof, check if you dont believe me!
Thanks Albie. But for me this still doesn't work See the image attached to this post. What version of the sim are you using?

Albert in post 137662 said:
I would suggest to let either 5P50 or 4L32 use the GL instead of RL at Didcot West End / Foxhall Jn, as currently both want to use the RL at the same time.
Thanks for the suggestion! I've routed 4L32 through the GL now.

I've also attached a preview of v1.1 to this post.

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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 07/03/2021 at 14:53 #137681
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Koen in post 137680 said:
Koen in post 137552 said:
P1 [at Swindon]... should easily accommodate 2x 5-car Class 800s. No idea why it doesn't in the sim.
In the meanwhile I found proof on YouTube -> This video shows two 5-car Class 800's arriving at platform 1 from approx. 16m30s onwards.
What stopping position have you set in the TT? The sim default may well be short of the platform end.

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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 07/03/2021 at 15:42 #137682
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Koen in post 137680 said:

Yes, exactly. Without set down ARS will just let 6U41 sit on the main line when it’s running early, blocking all other trains.

I was thinking of no stop at all at Milton Jn because it already has one at Steventon.

Or can't that be done because ARS would set the route out of the loop too early?

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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 07/03/2021 at 16:02 #137683
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postal in post 137681 said:

What stopping position have you set in the TT? The sim default may well be short of the platform end.

You can't fit 260 metres of train in a track circuit that has an in-sim length of 250 metres. A far end stop of 1L64 would prevent departure of 2G81 from platform 2 and a near end stop of 1L64 would prevent departure of 1L06 from platform 3.

I think shortening the train is indeed the best way to make up for the difference between sim and reality here. Alternatively you could swap platforms 1 and 3 for 1L64 and 1L06, given platform 3 is longer in-sim and 1L06 is a shorter train.

EDIT: 6Q59 and 1O18 conflict on the relief line between Didcot and Reading. Given 1A24 is concurrently using the fast line I don't see an obvious solution to it.

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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 08/03/2021 at 22:10 #137714
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6C49 has a planned stop on the main line at Milton Jn. To avoid blocking the main line, I would suggest either changing it to the RL or calling at Steventon instead.
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 26/03/2021 at 18:40 #138108
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I've almost reached the end of the TT and found one more problem: 2N70, 2N73, and 2N96 are entering from Reading on the fast line but calling at Pangbourne, which does not cause much trouble in the sim but wouldn't work in reality as the platforms are not there.
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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 26/03/2021 at 19:24 #138109
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Albert in post 138108 said:
I've almost reached the end of the TT and found one more problem: 2N70, 2N73, and 2N96 are entering from Reading on the fast line but calling at Pangbourne, which does not cause much trouble in the sim but wouldn't work in reality as the platforms are not there.
Perhaps they are equipped with stepladders?

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Swindon A&B new timetable Feb 2021 28/03/2021 at 10:33 #138173
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1D96 does the same thing by the way.
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