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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 14:03 #145624
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ajax103 in post 145620 said:
Just one obvious thing to point out, have a look at Bradford Interchange area and tell me what's wrong please?

It's the same issue on all the maps btw....
Completely out of order there Ajax. There is a spelling mistake yes, but there is no need to be rude and obnoxious in your way of pointing it out.

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 14:06 #145625
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Wasn't rude just banter pointing out to see if anyone else could see the error
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 14:13 #145626
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Well regardless of any typos, you've clearly gone to town on this one eh, and I have to say it's very impressive.
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 14:25 #145629
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TUT in post 145626 said:
Well regardless of any typos, you've clearly gone to town on this one eh, and I have to say it's very impressive.
If you think this is impressive, wait until you see what's coming!

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 14:54 #145631
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Are there any available sims at the moment using your style of lever frame?
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 15:03 #145632
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Anothersignalman in post 145631 said:
Are there any available sims at the moment using your style of lever frame?
Tyneside has two panels on it that use it, too complicated for me!

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 15:37 #145634
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Anothersignalman in post 145631 said:
Are there any available sims at the moment using your style of lever frame?
Hunts Cross and Tyneside I believe are the only two.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 15:58 #145635
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The Bradford end reminds me of the Cathcart sim
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 16:27 #145636
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Getting personal now... my father's papers record Mill Lane was where he worked his last turn as a booking boy before becoming a porter-signalman. Good to see it here (even if it is the reduced modern layout).
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 17:20 #145640
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TUT in post 145626 said:
Well regardless of any typos, you've clearly gone to town on this one eh, and I have to say it's very impressive.

Thank you! although small, designing the lever frames and IFS Panels was fun and they do look the part plus the sim is just a nice size!

and apologies for the lack of response earlier been on a hike today so not been at the PC, and I'll go through the check those spelling errors! (I thought I caught them though evidently, I failed!)

Edit: Here are the 3 (hopefully) spelling mistake versions!
(any further spelling mistakes just let me know and I'll get them sorted)



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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 06/03/2022 at 17:39 #145641
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elltrain3 in post 145640 said:
TUT in post 145626 said:
Well regardless of any typos, you've clearly gone to town on this one eh, and I have to say it's very impressive.

Thank you! although small, designing the lever frames and IFS Panels was fun and they do look the part plus the sim is just a nice size!

and apologies for the lack of response earlier been on a hike today so not been at the PC, and I'll go through the check those spelling errors! (I thought I caught them though evidently, I failed!)

Edit: Here are the 3 (hopefully) spelling mistake versions!
(any further spelling mistakes just let me know and I'll get them sorted)


Well I think the addition of signal & point numbers elevates these mocks from an interesting bit of fun up to an impressive source of information. The mock frames and IFS panels are also surely a nice touch.

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 10/03/2022 at 18:57 #145668
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My next mock is partly cheating, but It made sense after the Halifax area!
It's the return of Healey Mills!

Covering the Signal boxes at Healey Mills, Batley, Elland, Huddersfield and Diggle Jn!

First up the biggest and most complex, is Healey Mills PSB!
The box here opened in 1963 coinciding with the re-building of the marshalling yard to handle the increased coal traffic, it opened with an IFS panel, though had an NX Panel fitted sometime in the 1990s. The yard was busy throughout the 60s & 70s, though by 1984 the Hump was seeing around 100 wagons a day, so it closed in that year and the yard became as we see it on the panel.
By 1985 the box lost the west (right) end yard connections, all trains now needing to reverse to gain access to the yard from the Calder valley.
By the 1990s it saw 18 trains a day, so started becoming overgrown and disused. Freight traffic continued regularly until 1998 when the final major operator withdrew, and the yard became solely an MPD and Storage Facility.

By 2012 the Loco Signing on point closed and the depot was Demolished in 2016, the yard was technically still open but at this point was almost completely overgrown bar a few small sidings. The signal box still controlled the area though the Healey Mills Panel was in "Auto" mode for most of the time, the box expanded to Absorb Elland & Greetland Signal boxes in 2009.
The box closed in 2018 with control passing to the York ROC (Healey Mills Workstation), layout-wise nothing changed!

Next, we cover Batley (Plated "LA" Then "B")
The box here opened in 1878 as "Lady Ann Crossing" with 16 levers and opened as a Gate box. It was on the LNWR Route from Stalybridge to Leeds, to which it shared for the portion through Mirfield with the L&Y.
In 1957 the box underwent some changes, firstly it was upgraded to a block post and given a new lever frame. It was also renamed "Batley" and signals replated to "B", only 9 Years later it changed again and this time gained a small IFS Panel, to control the area of the former boxes at Dewsbury No2, Batley West and Birstall Junction, which closed that year. Though 4 Levers were retained to control the gates of Lady Ann Crossing.
The next change was in 1990 when Dewsbury re-gained a Down Loop, and the panel was modified to suit, at the same time the 4 levers were replaced by a switch (Labelled "E".) to lock the gates.
The box is constantly busy with Transpennine traffic, and following Leeds PSB Closing in 2001 it works to the York ROC (Leeds East Workstation) on the Down, and following the closure of Healey Mills in 2018 Works to York ROC (Healey Mills Workstation) On the Up! Meaning it now fringes with the York ROC Both ways.

The box will eventually lose the crossing when York ROC Expands its reaches and the box will go but for now, it remains a "mechanical" (in the sense a signaller manually routes the trains) signal box on the busy Transpennine route!

We now pass the Thornhill Panel, which would be a fun and dangerous panel in chains, easily being able to cause chaos in Leeds or Manchester!
We quickly Cover Elland Signal Box

The box here was opened by BR in 1958 Replacing Elland East, West and Waterhouse Sdg signal boxes, the box had 60 levers to control the once vast array of sidings, though by the mid-eighties had only 6 working levers, the box was a boring affair just signalling trains through and It closed in 2009 along with Greetland. Control Passing to Healey Mills.

Next Comes Huddersfield, (Plated "HU".) an already existing sim but I'll cover it because I can!
The box here opened in 1958 by BR again, replacing 2 smaller boxes - Huddersfield No1 & No2, though only 3 years later it expanded to include Springwood Junction, Gledholt Junction and Lockwood No1 boxes to which it retains that layout in the way we see it today. the only other addition was the Penistone Branch in 1989. Both panels (Penistone & Huddersfield) were replaced by a BR Nx Panel which survived until the box closed in 2018 when control passed to the York ROC (Huddersfield Workstation) and the layout again remained unchanged, a testament to BR who made the layout so good no (major) changes were needed!

Finally, my favourite box of the Mock, Diggle Junction! (Plated "DJ")
Diggle Junction Opened as Diggle Jn No1 in 1885 and contained 59 Levers to control the junction to Oldham & Stalybridge (the secondary way) it has led a simple life passing trains through, and its first major change was in 1891 when the box was extended and lever frame subsequently extended from 59 Levers to 81! at the same time Diggle Jn No2 closed with No1 taking over and becoming Plain "Diggle Jn", the box then continued doing what it had done throughout its life until 89 Years later in 1980 BR Came along and Rationalised the layout, removing the Up Loop and sidings (the 2 branches to Oldham & Stalybridge closed with Beeching) and reducing the lever frame from 81 levers to a mere 26!

Though whenever I pass it, it will always amaze me that an 137-year-old signal box is guiding me through a busy and packed rail corridor with levers! when just next-door is a state of the art system with York ROC

The layout hasn't changed since that date, other than the remaining semaphores (4,6 & 16) being converted to colour lights leaving the only "mechanical" items as 18/19 Points/FPL, plus the fringe boxes have changed as it now works to York ROC (Huddersfield Workstation) and Manchester East SCC (Stalybridge Workstation), the box now remains the only lever box on the Transpennine (North) Route, and as with Batley and Baguley Fold Jn boxes will end up being swallowed by either the Manchester Or York ROC.

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 30/03/2022 at 19:24 #145954
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In response to the recent release of Slough Panel (PSB), I thought I'd add my MOCK of Reading (TVSC) era that I made a while back but never ended up posting, covering the same area as Reading PSB (Posted further up this thread)

The only MAJOR change was Reading station itself with the 10 Platforms, Goods Lines and Through lines, replaced with 9 Bi-Di through platforms and 5 bays!
Signalling along the sim has been densified and further Banner Repeaters provided to increase line speeds, the Theale panel saw the least change with the removal of most sidings being the only major change.

One oddity that survived from Reading PSB Days were the splitting signals at Tilehurst East Jn and Rushcombe Jn, which allow quicker divergences through the junctions, the layout is now much more flexible and even the southern lines got an upgrade! though the lines retain the "southern" and "spur" prefixes from the days of old!

Twyford also remained much the same bar the usual upgrades of extra signals, the Bi-Di Up Relief also gained Auto buttons unusually.

Only a quick one (I have some rather large Mocks in the works from days of old so if there is a gap between this and the next mock that'll be why!)

Enjoy! and thanks to the Devs for Slough PSB!


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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 30/03/2022 at 20:57 #145957
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elltrain3 in post 145954 said:
In response to the recent release of Slough Panel (PSB), I thought I'd add my MOCK of Reading (TVSC) era that I made a while back but never ended up posting, covering the same area as Reading PSB (Posted further up this thread)

The only MAJOR change was Reading station itself with the 10 Platforms, Goods Lines and Through lines, replaced with 9 Bi-Di through platforms and 5 bays!
Signalling along the sim has been densified and further Banner Repeaters provided to increase line speeds, the Theale panel saw the least change with the removal of most sidings being the only major change.

One oddity that survived from Reading PSB Days were the splitting signals at Tilehurst East Jn and Rushcombe Jn, which allow quicker divergences through the junctions, the layout is now much more flexible and even the southern lines got an upgrade! though the lines retain the "southern" and "spur" prefixes from the days of old!

Twyford also remained much the same bar the usual upgrades of extra signals, the Bi-Di Up Relief also gained Auto buttons unusually.

Only a quick one (I have some rather large Mocks in the works from days of old so if there is a gap between this and the next mock that'll be why!)

Enjoy! and thanks to the Devs for Slough PSB!

Platform 7 is spelt wrong, should be Down Westbury vice Down Wesbury

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 30/03/2022 at 21:01 #145958
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Ah Yep missed the T! thanks!
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 30/03/2022 at 21:10 #145960
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elltrain3 in post 145958 said:
Ah Yep missed the T! thanks!
Also in your first post in this thread, may I suggest a list of all the mockups that you've done so far with maybe a link to the post containing them?

Still post them as a new post but list them as above so it's possible to track what you've actually done so others don't duplicate what you've done please?

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 30/03/2022 at 21:58 #145961
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See Post Below - Ignore this/Needs Deleting
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 30/03/2022 at 22:00 #145962
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oth9TCaXDW4QlUSmmJN83-qFHjLarrLkt-OoS2EIdRY/edit?usp=sharing

Here is the spreadsheet, Use the "Sim Era's" tab to keep track :)
If you are an active "mock-maker" then send me a DM and I'll allow you to have your own "column" to add your own in!

I'm also unable to edit the first post to add this link to that

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 31/03/2022 at 09:16 #145971
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elltrain3 in post 145962 said:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oth9TCaXDW4QlUSmmJN83-qFHjLarrLkt-OoS2EIdRY/edit?usp=sharing

Here is the spreadsheet, Use the "Sim Era's" tab to keep track :)
If you are an active "mock-maker" then send me a DM and I'll allow you to have your own "column" to add your own in!

I'm also unable to edit the first post to add this link to that
Wimbledon is misspelt as Wimbeldon in spreadsheet as is Marylebone misspelt Marlebyone as well as
Scarbourgh which should be spelt Scarborough but great idea , umm headshot119 and team can we have the link to the spreadsheet moved to the first opening post in this thread by elltrain3 please?

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 31/03/2022 at 18:19 #145977
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Thanks, I'll get them changed, and the sheet wasn't public prior to today so I didn't bother checking for mistakes!
I'll get them fixed this evening as I've been out all day being signalled under semephores!

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 03/04/2022 at 18:17 #146010
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Using the now withdrawn Cambridge simulation, I did a mockup of how it would look if directly converted to loader format with no changes being made to the simulation.

Many thanks to the developer of Cambridge for building Cambridge all those years ago!


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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 03/04/2022 at 20:27 #146011
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ajax103 in post 146010 said:
Using the now withdrawn Cambridge simulation, I did a mockup of how it would look if directly converted to loader format with no changes being made to the simulation.

Many thanks to the developer of Cambridge for building Cambridge all those years ago!

I could be wrong, but I thought that Cambridge was being developed in the Loader format.
I think that it would be much easier to run the sim if it were to be anything like your Mock-up. I used to keep forgetting where the level crossings were. In the end I made a list which told me which "page" they were on.

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 03/04/2022 at 21:28 #146012
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Yes, Cambridge is being converted (very slowly) into Loader format.

Yes, it will be a single long sim, not a set of pages.

No, it won't look the same as that mock-up for a number of reasons.

No further details for now - you'll have to wait.

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 03/04/2022 at 21:28 #146013
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ajax103 in post 146010 said:

Many thanks to the developer of Cambridge for building Cambridge all those years ago!
You're welcome.

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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 03/04/2022 at 23:34 #146014
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clive in post 146012 said:
Yes, Cambridge is being converted (very slowly) into Loader format.
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No further details for now - you'll have to wait.

Good. I will look forward to the result.

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