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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 15/06/2021 at 14:39 #140040
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A full 5 Day timetable available to download for Leeds North West Simulation.
Based on Wk01 in April The Monday was the Bank Holiday through to the Friday. The Week before the Pubs reopened.

https://www.simsig.co.uk/File/Details/2607

Even though full timetables were not in operation It is still a busy Sim. Plenty of Freight as the week progresses upto / from Rhylstone Quarry, also workings to Arcow and Newbiggin. LSL with a route learner all week plus a move off the KWVR.

Schedules are from Network Rail using cif information plus Colas IM Workings and other Documentation. Yes clashes do occur but in reality you are sat in a busy workstation in York so you will have to deal with it.

I hope you all enjoy. Please report any issues on THIS thread and when I am not playing with trains in real life I will look at them
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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 04/07/2021 at 13:16 #140325
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Just started a game with this TT. DOTW is Wednesday.

All 1Qxx trains seem to be using "LNER - Azuma - 9 Car" train type instead of "(1) - PLPR4 - 37 + DBS0 + TIC2 + PLPR4 + 37", which also means it is too long for at least P2 at Ilkley and overhanging signal 3956.

EDIT: Oh, and I can't open the attached manual - PDF-XChange Viewer says:
"Error [PDF Structure 40]: Invalid file format

Note: the format of source is not PDF."

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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 04/07/2021 at 14:16 #140327
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I presume that this timetable is different from the one that I already have and which has an identical file name?
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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 04/07/2021 at 16:11 #140328
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bugsy in post 140327 said:
I presume that this timetable is different from the one that I already have and which has an identical file name?
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Chris's post was on 15/06 so would imply you have the correct version.

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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 04/07/2021 at 16:14 #140329
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Coco-Banana-Man in post 140325 said:
Just started a game with this TT. DOTW is Wednesday.

All 1Qxx trains seem to be using "LNER - Azuma - 9 Car" train type instead of "(1) - PLPR4 - 37 + DBS0 + TIC2 + PLPR4 + 37", which also means it is too long for at least P2 at Ilkley and overhanging signal 3956.

EDIT: Oh, and I can't open the attached manual - PDF-XChange Viewer says:
"Error [PDF Structure 40]: Invalid file format

Note: the format of source is not PDF."
I can vouch I've also had the issue with the pdf.

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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 04/07/2021 at 20:38 #140338
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bugsy in post 140327 said:
I presume that this timetable is different from the one that I already have and which has an identical file name?
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Oh dear. Another eye malfunction. I didn't notice that.
Thanks for pointing it out.

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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 06/07/2021 at 13:17 #140400
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Found another one -
2H48's stopping position at Skipton is defined as NX, which results in it already stopping at track section "TEV" and not even passing signal 4033. This also means it won't release its overlap to set the route for 2S09's departure and the route for 5H48 to Broughton Road has to be set and secured manually.


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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 06/07/2021 at 16:10 #140407
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Coco-Banana-Man in post 140400 said:
Found another one -
2H48's stopping position at Skipton is defined as NX, which results in it already stopping at track section "TEV" and not even passing signal 4033. This also means it won't release its overlap to set the route for 2S09's departure and the route for 5H48 to Broughton Road has to be set and secured manually.

I did come across this one when I was doing the testing, but it may be that I didn't add it onto my list - so apologies if that's the case.

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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 06/07/2021 at 16:25 #140413
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Coco-Banana-Man in post 140400 said:
Found another one -
2H48's stopping position at Skipton is defined as NX, which results in it already stopping at track section "TEV" and not even passing signal 4033. This also means it won't release its overlap to set the route for 2S09's departure and the route for 5H48 to Broughton Road has to be set and secured manually.

I think the NX is the wrong choice, a default stopping position in Skipton should be fine.

2H48s NX should probably be just a N stop if it is required.

5H48 or any departure doesnt need anything for a stopping position as it should have already been formed from 2H48s arrival

However with 5H48 I would set a NX stop in Broughton CS3 save it running too far own the siding.

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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 15/07/2021 at 16:47 #140594
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Good evening,

I've just completed the session and encountered some more bugs:

11.55: 5Y60 is timetabled to go to S3 at Broughton Rd CS, but 5Z73 is already sitting there since 09:15 (ex 5Z70) and should depart before (13:45) 5Y60's next working 5H17 (14:45). S1 should be fine for 5Y60/5H17.

12.55: 0Z17/0Z20/0Z21 TT Rules "must not depart from Shipley until 4 minutes after 2D54/N42038 (or 2S44/N42412 or 2D78/42047) arrives at Shipley" - why? Shouldn't that decision be left to the signaller or at least also be written into TT Notes if it really MUST run behind those services? My problem was that 2D54 was delayed 6 mins, so 0Z17 could have a clear run in front of it without interrupting it - but of course it stopped at Shipley and stayed there due to the rule I wasn't aware of.

13.45: 6D50's loco is standing behind signal 4042 at Skipton Down Shipley Slow after run-round even though 6D50 has stopping position FX (also 6D67 and 6D31 later)

16.59: 0Z20's TT Rule results in deadlock at Armley Jn, because the services that should overtake (and the one it waits for) are blocked behind it. I abandoned the rule at its planned departure time at Armley.

18.20: 0Z21's TT Rule "must not depart from Shipley until 4 minutes after 2D78/N42047 arrives at Shipley" doesn't work (or results in high delay) - 2D78's arrival time at Shipley is 18:52 (half an hour later)!

18.20: 6D31's got a TT Rule "must not depart from Rylstone Tilcon until 270 minutes after 6D31 arrives at Rylstone Tilcon", but train is timetabled to stop only 224 minutes (timetabled to arrive as 6D50 at 14:36) - Train also still waited for the rule to fulfill after 290 minutes (19:30), so it probably should be "after 6D50 arrives". I tried to alter the rule to 6D50 at 19:30, but it probably needs to be triggered by the arrival of 6D50 after altering the rule, so in the end I had to abandon the rule.

21.50: 0D67 (ex 6D67) can't run back from Rylstone to Skipton because the wagons it detatched are in front of it and therefore blocking it. The next train, 6D84, works correctly as it uses "DCF:" instead of "DCR:" action.

23.20: 5S48 (96m) + 5Z77 (71m) + 5H74 (96m) + 5S64 (96m) and later even 5H82 (96m) (which added up equals 455m) are all timetabled to berth at Broughton Road CS No. 3, but when 5S64 arrives, it's overhanging signal 4554. According to the wiki, the siding is only 277m long. On startup, two services (5H29 + 5P19) were seeded in P1 at Skipton, but nothing terminates there.

I made screenshots of everything, but I think I can only add 3 attachments. Therefore I'll just zip them together and add the zip-file including all screenshots.

I also noticed that I can clear signal 4042 at Shipley for 6D84 towards Rylstone while the OTW section is blocked as nothing has returned off 6D67. I will report this in the Rylstone Quarry-Thread.

Regards Stephan



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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 25/07/2021 at 15:18 #140742
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Currently stacked out playing proper trains I will look at these bugs when I get chance. Thank You
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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 04/08/2021 at 15:27 #140960
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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 04/08/2021 at 15:29 #140962
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Steadily going through them as I have a few days off SWMBO takes presidence and then I am at the Test Match tomorrow. Bear with me
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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 04/08/2021 at 20:25 #140966
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Me too Chris! Hoping for a better England tomorrow!
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Leeds Northwest WK01 - APRIL 2021 - A full Five day Timetable 05/08/2021 at 02:28 #140978
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Chrisrail in post 140962 said:
Bear with me
I assume thats a typo shouldnt it read Beer with me

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