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| TORR 11/02/2022 at 23:33 #145137 | |
Monostori
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Hello, The "Overview" part of the Manual says there is no TORR here, but it appears to me TORR is very much alive and kicking in this simulation without an option to disable it. Would it be possible to implement this option, given the fact the route should not have TORR anyway (at least, according to the manual). Thank you! Log in to reply |
| TORR 12/02/2022 at 00:06 #145138 | |
GeoffM
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It looks like TORR is enabled in Easy mode, but not in Difficult mode. I've not looked at the other options.
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| TORR 12/02/2022 at 00:10 #145139 | |
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Monostori
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Thank you for letting me know. Would it be possible to add the "usual" TORR on/off tickbox so that it can be enabled and disabled regardless of difficulty, please? I would like to stick with the beginner mode but it would be great to have TORR off.
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| TORR 12/02/2022 at 00:55 #145140 | |
headshot119
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Monostori in post 145139 said:Thank you for letting me know. Would it be possible to add the "usual" TORR on/off tickbox so that it can be enabled and disabled regardless of difficulty, please? I would like to stick with the beginner mode but it would be great to have TORR off.I've logged 35705 on Mantis to see if the option can be changed. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Monostori |
| TORR 12/02/2022 at 01:03 #145141 | |
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Monostori
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Thank you!
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| TORR 12/02/2022 at 02:28 #145142 | |
flabberdacks
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There's several sims that operate this way - 'easy mode' gives extra train describer help and enables TORR. Westbury is another that comes to mind. I'd love to play them with less berths but still have TORR on for example (the more customisation the better) - is it worth logging a ticket against each each sim set up this way? What's the mood around that?
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| TORR 12/02/2022 at 03:54 #145143 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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I believe it is the way Peter has done it on his sims
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| TORR 12/02/2022 at 08:18 #145147 | |
Peter Bennet
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Stephen Fulcher in post 145143 said:I believe it is the way Peter has done it on his simsI can't recall the history of this at the moment. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| TORR 12/02/2022 at 08:21 #145148 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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Mantis 13643 details the current TORR application in Plymouth.
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| TORR 12/02/2022 at 10:24 #145152 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Stephen Fulcher in post 145148 said:Mantis 13643 details the current TORR application in Plymouth.Thanks, so that refers back to copying the Westbury MO (good grief was it really 6 years ago that I did Plymouth). I went back to Westbury and tracked this formulation down to a first appearance in the data on 7 December 2013, so in the first public release after that. Prior it appears that TORR was always on by default. After all these years I can only speculate as to what the rationale was. Possibly that Plymouth and Westbury are relatively small Sims and, in reality, there is no TORR so I'll switch it off; but took pity on the beginners. I guess it's one of these tensions between it being a simulation of reality and a game. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| TORR 12/02/2022 at 11:44 #145157 | |
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bill_gensheet
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Peter Bennet in post 145152 said:Stephen Fulcher in post 145148 said:I would add that even when not correct to life, TORR makes timetable testing a whole lot faster and easier. From that angle alone would seem worthwhile to retain TORR as an opt-in choice (all sims ?) separate to 'degree of difficultly'Mantis 13643 details the current TORR application in Plymouth.Possibly that Plymouth and Westbury are relatively small Sims and, in reality, there is no TORR so I'll switch it off; but took pity on the beginners. I guess it's one of these tensions between it being a simulation of reality and a game. Bill. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Monostori |
| TORR 21/02/2022 at 19:57 #145296 | |
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Monostori
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An option box that can be ticked/unticked keeps everyone happy. So far, my favourite simulation, apart from Coventry. As a newbie, I find it challenging but manageable, and very rewarding. It would be cool to play "beginner" level but without TORR, as the next step, so I am hoping it will happen.
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| TORR 22/02/2022 at 21:19 #145315 | |
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sloppyjag
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As an interim workaround, start the sim in Standard mode, go to options (F3) and then Failures tab. Slide all the sliders to the left (None) and change Max simultaneous failures to 0. Et voila! Easy mode with no TORR. Planotransitophobic! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Monostori |
| TORR 05/03/2022 at 18:16 #145591 | |
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Monostori
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Awesome workaround! Thank you!
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| TORR 05/03/2022 at 20:20 #145596 | |
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Dionysusnu
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sloppyjag in post 145315 said:As an interim workaround, start the sim in Standard mode, go to options (F3) and then Failures tab. Slide all the sliders to the left (None) and change Max simultaneous failures to 0.Although it might work for Plymouth, this is not a full workaround, as Easy Mode changes a few other things that will not be enabled this way. For example, automatic interposing of train descriptions entering at sidings. Log in to reply |
| TORR 05/03/2022 at 20:29 #145599 | |
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headshot119
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Dionysusnu in post 145596 said:sloppyjag in post 145315 said:However given this thread is specifically around Plymouth and the TORR option, the workaround given by sloppyjag seems to fit quite well. Especially given there's a very limited number of simulations which implement the TORR option via difficulty setting.As an interim workaround, start the sim in Standard mode, go to options (F3) and then Failures tab. Slide all the sliders to the left (None) and change Max simultaneous failures to 0.Although it might work for Plymouth, this is not a full workaround, as Easy Mode changes a few other things that will not be enabled this way. For example, automatic interposing of train descriptions entering at sidings. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| TORR 05/03/2022 at 21:13 #145603 | |
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Jan
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While it might void your warranty ;-), TORR can also be toggled on/off by editing the save file (open the save file as a compressed archive, open SavedSimulation.xml, and right near the top you find the setting for TORR).
Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Monostori |
| TORR 06/03/2022 at 13:25 #145622 | |
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Monostori
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Looks like there are several ways to achieve a TORR-off scenario. Thank you for these suggestions!
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