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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 22/05/2022 at 22:06 #146570
GeoffM
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The hardware that the SimSig website and associated applications run on needs upgrading/replacement. As a result, from around 10pm GMT / 11pm BST the website will be unavailable while we move it to a newer platform. During this time the DNS records will change which is the biggest "unknown" part of the process as it is not in our control - servers around the world propagate the information, and servers looking for our website need to realise it's moved, and this can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours.

If you anticipate using SimSig during this time, please lock licenses to your machine to avoid any disruption.

Apologies for the necessary downtime. We'll provide updates on our Facebook page.

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 23/05/2022 at 07:43 #146574
i26
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Thanks for the heads up. Here's to looking at bigger and better things going forward!
Railway Employee and Enthusiast. All views are my own.
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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 23/05/2022 at 18:06 #146578
Redingtolondonviawokingham
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How Long do estimate it will take?
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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 23/05/2022 at 18:38 #146579
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Redingtolondonviawokingham in post 146578 said:
How Long do estimate it will take?
Geoff stated in his first post

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this can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 23/05/2022 at 19:46 #146581
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The TTL on the record is currently 1800 seconds, so just about everyone should see the service back 3 hours after the DNS is changed, but you also have allow time for the system to be moved across on top.

(Will the TTL be reduced in advance btw?)

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 23/05/2022 at 21:27 #146583
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9pN1SEAp in post 146581 said:
The TTL on the record is currently 1800 seconds, so just about everyone should see the service back 3 hours after the DNS is changed, but you also have allow time for the system to be moved across on top.

(Will the TTL be reduced in advance btw?)
TTL is a recommendation at best. If I had a pound for every DNS resolver I've seen ignore it I wouldn't touch DNS ever again.

But yes, lowering the TTL before a change can help speed things up.

Last edited: 23/05/2022 at 21:27 by Sacro
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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 24/05/2022 at 07:46 #146589
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GeoffM in post 146570 said:
During this time the DNS records will change which is the biggest "unknown" part of the process as it is not in our control - servers around the world propagate the information, and servers looking for our website need to realise it's moved, and this can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours.
One possible way of reducing this downtime is to reduce the TTL value a few days in advance of a big DNS change to a low value, say maybe 5 minutes.
Then, when you change your DNS values, the change should propagate within 5 minutes. Of course there will always be some variation but as a general rule this has always seemed to have worked for me.

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 25/05/2022 at 17:06 #146600
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We haven't started the main migration yet but we do have to change some things in preparation for the Main Event. Email notifications, for example, may not arrive until much later, if at all. The website may be down for brief moments (under a minute) a couple of times. We thank you for your patience.
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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 25/05/2022 at 22:42 #146602
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The transfer is complete and I am now testing various areas to ensure everything migrated correctly. Thank you for your patience.
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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 09:40 #146627
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Under User-contributed > Timetables > Stafford

One timetable doesn't seem to be found when coming to make an edit. http://www.SimSig.co.uk/File/Details/897

Also I have two pages that need removing as there out of date timetables as I have a updated version two for the broken link above.
https://www.SimSig.co.uk/File/Details/988
https://www.SimSig.co.uk/File/Details/2268

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 14:38 #146632
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If you 'edit' and save with a description of 'please delete me' the mods will 'reject' the submission and they go.


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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 16:56 #146634
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HST125Scorton in post 146627 said:
Under User-contributed > Timetables > Stafford

One timetable doesn't seem to be found when coming to make an edit. http://www.SimSig.co.uk/File/Details/897
That downloads for me okay, and I can make edits. Anybody else have issues downloading it (or anything else)?

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 17:09 #146635
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I can download ok, not sure what permissions are needed for the 'Edit' button on 'Details' but I get a 404 for any timetable for any sim (or at least the few I've tried).
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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 17:21 #146636
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GeoffM in post 146634 said:
HST125Scorton in post 146627 said:
Under User-contributed > Timetables > Stafford

One timetable doesn't seem to be found when coming to make an edit. http://www.SimSig.co.uk/File/Details/897
That downloads for me okay, and I can make edits. Anybody else have issues downloading it (or anything else)?

Indeed the file downloads as it should. But when clicking on edit it takes it to a 404 error page and the url becomes "https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Error/DataNotFound".

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 18:24 #146640
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HST125Scorton in post 146636 said:
GeoffM in post 146634 said:
HST125Scorton in post 146627 said:
Under User-contributed > Timetables > Stafford

One timetable doesn't seem to be found when coming to make an edit. http://www.SimSig.co.uk/File/Details/897
That downloads for me okay, and I can make edits. Anybody else have issues downloading it (or anything else)?

Indeed the file downloads as it should. But when clicking on edit it takes it to a 404 error page and the url becomes "https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Error/DataNotFound".
You're trying to edit somebody else's submission? If so, granted the error should probably be a 403 rather than 404, but this is not new.

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 18:27 #146641
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GeoffM in post 146640 said:
HST125Scorton in post 146636 said:
GeoffM in post 146634 said:
HST125Scorton in post 146627 said:
Under User-contributed > Timetables > Stafford

One timetable doesn't seem to be found when coming to make an edit. http://www.SimSig.co.uk/File/Details/897
That downloads for me okay, and I can make edits. Anybody else have issues downloading it (or anything else)?

Indeed the file downloads as it should. But when clicking on edit it takes it to a 404 error page and the url becomes "https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Error/DataNotFound".
You're trying to edit somebody else's submission? If so, granted the error should probably be a 403 rather than 404, but this is not new.
Yep I now own the timetable after it was given to me to continue updating it. Which I have been doing with the now deleted links further up when I mentioned this. I'm trying to upload Version 2 of the timetable which is the final update.

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 18:35 #146644
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HST125Scorton in post 146641 said:
GeoffM in post 146640 said:
HST125Scorton in post 146636 said:
GeoffM in post 146634 said:
HST125Scorton in post 146627 said:
Under User-contributed > Timetables > Stafford

One timetable doesn't seem to be found when coming to make an edit. http://www.SimSig.co.uk/File/Details/897
That downloads for me okay, and I can make edits. Anybody else have issues downloading it (or anything else)?

Indeed the file downloads as it should. But when clicking on edit it takes it to a 404 error page and the url becomes "https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Error/DataNotFound".
You're trying to edit somebody else's submission? If so, granted the error should probably be a 403 rather than 404, but this is not new.
Yep I now own the timetable after it was given to me to continue updating it. Which I have been doing with the now deleted links further up when I mentioned this. I'm trying to upload Version 2 of the timetable which is the final update.
Well that'll be why then! As far as the website is concerned, Winsford owns it and it won't let you edit it. The original author needs to post here that they want the file taken down, and then you can submit in its place.

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 18:56 #146646
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Seems a bit stupid having an edit button there at all for all and sundry to click if only the author has the necessary permissions.
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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 19:57 #146648
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It is author *and mods*.

Yes visible for all but does 404 for normal users (inc me) if it isn't 'your' timetable

Would be nice if greyed, but hardly a show stopper.

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Website will be moving and unavailable 25-May-2022 27/05/2022 at 20:31 #146649
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It is author and mods.

Yes visible for all but does 404 for standard users if it isn't 'your' timetable.

Would be nice if greyed, but hardly a show stopper.

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