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Train 6L25 and other trains 19/02/2010 at 13:19 #736
Charlytos
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Timetable Winter 2003 v. 2, problem is train 6L25, entrance from Carlston Road, both have different entrance time, but after both trains have same time on pass points. Make partial exit on Temple Mill Yard and return to simulation. When have entrance from Carlston Road both mentioned trains, both go to that partial exit, but after returns to simulation only one train the other doesn't appear never.
I deleted the first train, letting to run normally the second train. ignore if is correct to make it so, but for my reason was made so. If anyone can put detail over that special case of train 6L25. Thanks.

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Train 6L25 and other trains 19/02/2010 at 13:19 #6816
Charlytos
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Timetable Winter 2003 v. 2, problem is train 6L25, entrance from Carlston Road, both have different entrance time, but after both trains have same time on pass points. Make partial exit on Temple Mill Yard and return to simulation. When have entrance from Carlston Road both mentioned trains, both go to that partial exit, but after returns to simulation only one train the other doesn't appear never.
I deleted the first train, letting to run normally the second train. ignore if is correct to make it so, but for my reason was made so. If anyone can put detail over that special case of train 6L25. Thanks.

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Train 6L25 and other trains 19/02/2010 at 21:23 #6824
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I've had a look, and it seems the second 6L25 is supposed to have a 50% chance of entering the sim, so it won't appear every time.
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Train 6L25 and other trains 20/02/2010 at 16:45 #6838
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Hello TRC, that detail over entrance possibility 50% of second train 6L25 I didn't look, only detail over both trains same entrance point, different entrace time and same pass points time for both trains. Any times 6L25 second train enters and other doesn't enter on simulation, consequence of its 50% of random entrance!
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Train 6L25 and other trains 20/02/2010 at 17:45 #6840
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I suspect it should be only one or the other, and the necessary rule is missing, but this would need the trains to be renamed (say) 6L25A and 6L25B
I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either.
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Train 6L25 and other trains 20/02/2010 at 19:07 #6841
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I renamed both trains how, 6L25-1 and 6L25-2. Possible is to put rule if train 1 runs not must run train 2 and if train 2 runs must not run train 1. Habitually first train runs always, the second how has random 50%, any times if runs other doesn't run.
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Train 6L25 and other trains 23/02/2010 at 13:07 #6902
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Timetable Winter 2003 v. 2, Several trains with pass time problems on Kensal Green, Candem and Dalston zones:

1) Kensal Green. Over 05:50 hours are running next trains around Kensal Green: 4L56 (Acton East) and 5L33 (Willesden SL) order pass how is put on timetable. After run 2L04 (Willesden SL) and 5N01 (Kensal Green Reversing waiting departure).

2) Candem. Arrives to that platform 2L04 having 4L56 on its rear. 5L88 Entrance Candem Jn (next id Candem 2N88) and on random mode Entrance from Candem Jn 4L95. This last train pass Candem with delay, is passing 4L56 on that moment and must wait free track. 2L04, 2N88 and 4L56 pass on time, only delay 4L95 waiting free line in Candem.

3) Dalston. Problem delay is for 4L95 and 5M85, which must wait free line. If train 4L95 doesn't enter on simulation, then there is not problems on Dalton Jn. 2L04, 2N88, 4L56 and 5M85 would run on time. Delay for 4L95 and 5M85 is because after pass Dalston 4L56, must pass 2L06 that is very near of Cannenbury platform. And both trains must waut until 2L06 has put free Dalston line.

Resuming details, 4L95 and 5M85 will have problem Dalston delay by be waiting several minutes free line stopped. How to fix this problem? For my reason would be, modify timetable for 4L95 and 5M85, putting them more time Entrance and on their pass points. Without forget that 2L06 is running near of Dalston Jn by Diesel line.

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Train 6L25 and other trains 23/02/2010 at 19:48 #6909
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Carlos, that timetable is exactly how I remember the North london in real life (including when I was a signalman). It's the signalman's job to make the best of what can be a (very frustrating) bad job, you just need to try your best to minimise delays but you have to accept that some trains will have to be held & will lose time. My first signalbox was Junction Road Junction (between Gospel Oak, Carlton Road & Upper Holloway); in those days that line was controlled by a series of manual signalboxes with (in British terms) Absolute Block signalling, I recall one night when Leytonstone High Road was switched out (the section was from South Tottenham to Woodgrange Park) and I had trains waiting at signals all night long, some delayed up to 20 minutes!

Good luck!!

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Train 6L25 and other trains 23/02/2010 at 21:08 #6910
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Thanks kbarber to reply me over problem on Dalston, putting your personal experience how signalman on that line. I ignore real signalman details from Spain.
Really delay is not caused by any of those trains: 4L56, 5M85, 2L04, 2N88 and 4M95. Delay is caused because all mentioned trains must pass by Dalston fron Overhead or Diesel line with short time for pass 5 trains. And 2L06 running by diesel line on rear of 4L56 too.

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