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2C18 1030 Aylesbury Vale - Marylebone misrouted by ARS?

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2C18 1030 Aylesbury Vale - Marylebone misrouted by ARS? 09/05/2014 at 21:42 #60262
Pinza
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Currently running excellent Marylebone Sim single-handedly with version 7 timetable.
ARS now copes admirably with F coded LUL services - can leave the Met to run itself!
Am running 2015+ version with LUL full and standard ARS.
Seem to have a problem with 2C18 (1030 Aylesbury Vale Parkway to Marylebone).
ARS has routed it from signal JJ71B (Watford South) to SJF24 (between Moor Park and Northwood).
This is the SB Local via Harrow - and can see no route to get it into Marylebone from here!
Driver is on phone moaning about incorrect route. Don't blame him - he's right. Don't blame myself - ARS set the route!


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2C18 1030 Aylesbury Vale - Marylebone misrouted by ARS? 09/05/2014 at 21:54 #60263
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Don't blame myself - ARS set the route!
Not Quite True. its an Aid, not a replacement. A bit like blaming a Satnav for sending you into a river.

(I do agree looking at the TT however that I would be expecting it to run via the mains. I'm suprised no line codes are required for ARS.)

"We don't stop camborne wednesdays"
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2C18 1030 Aylesbury Vale - Marylebone misrouted by ARS? 10/05/2014 at 10:51 #60278
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Actually I am having the same issue in reverse now. I have got a hold of the latest WTT for the Met and had started chucking in those runs. I completed all runs for Train 401 without issue, and got most of 402 done but now getting trouble at Watford Junction on A402-10 and A402-12 on the timetable I am programming. Both are Southbound services from Amersham, both start from the sidings (not the same but both throw up the same problem). They both flag up as invalid timetable at the North Sidings, both run okay to Ricky, where ARS tries to route the train to the Main Line. Both are scheduled Local Line, both have been programmed Local Line, both have a Platform 2 allocation at Ricky, and have been programmed identically to all other services so routed - yet only these two throw up the error.

Worth noting too, when I validate the train, it throws up an error at Ricky with the only suggestions being Ricky P1 - ML or P2 to ML. No options available to the Local Line. If I manually edit Watford South Junction to LL and validate again, it throws up again as ML!

Not sure what I am doing wrong, and I have written a few timetables thus far without this issue, and it is specific only to these two trains only!

Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait!
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2C18 1030 Aylesbury Vale - Marylebone misrouted by ARS? 10/05/2014 at 10:57 #60279
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isnt the said train susposed to run down fast to platform 1 at Harrow
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2C18 1030 Aylesbury Vale - Marylebone misrouted by ARS? 10/05/2014 at 21:24 #60305
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Currently running excellent Marylebone Sim single-handedly with version 7 timetable.
ARS now copes admirably with F coded LUL services - can leave the Met to run itself!
Am running 2015+ version with LUL full and standard ARS.
Seem to have a problem with 2C18 (1030 Aylesbury Vale Parkway to Marylebone).
ARS has routed it from signal JJ71B (Watford South) to SJF24 (between Moor Park and Northwood).
This is the SB Local via Harrow - and can see no route to get it into Marylebone from here!
Driver is on phone moaning about incorrect route. Don't blame him - he's right. Don't blame myself - ARS set the route!

The timetable appears incomplete. Where is Watford South Junction in it? That location is needed to route the train correctly.

Barry

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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2C18 1030 Aylesbury Vale - Marylebone misrouted by ARS? 11/05/2014 at 00:23 #60313
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The timetable appears incomplete. Where is Watford South Junction in it? That location is needed to route the train correctly.

Barry
Hmm, now run TT to long past evening rush hour - not had another up Chiltern Lines train try to take the wrong route.

Appears that Watford South Jn is not required for ARS to route correctly.

In the case of 2C45 (attached below),an expected path is shown - but other similar trains have had neither Watford South Jn or paths specified and yet ARS routed correctly - am confused! Just 2C18 that wanted to go the wrong way!

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2C18 1030 Aylesbury Vale - Marylebone misrouted by ARS? 11/05/2014 at 01:21 #60315
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Hmm, now run TT to long past evening rush hour - not had another up Chiltern Lines train try to take the wrong route.

Appears that Watford South Jn is not required for ARS to route correctly.

In the case of 2C45 (attached below),an expected path is shown - but other similar trains have had neither Watford South Jn or paths specified and yet ARS routed correctly - am confused! Just 2C18 that wanted to go the wrong way!
As the Junction was not in the TT, it appears that ARS has set the route to the Local as ARS has previously set the route for W444 on the Down to cross from the Local to the Main.

Barry

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2C18 1030 Aylesbury Vale - Marylebone misrouted by ARS? 11/05/2014 at 18:37 #60351
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Hmm, now run TT to long past evening rush hour - not had another up Chiltern Lines train try to take the wrong route.

Appears that Watford South Jn is not required for ARS to route correctly.

In the case of 2C45 (attached below),an expected path is shown - but other similar trains have had neither Watford South Jn or paths specified and yet ARS routed correctly - am confused! Just 2C18 that wanted to go the wrong way!
As the Junction was not in the TT, it appears that ARS has set the route to the Local as ARS has previously set the route for W444 on the Down to cross from the Local to the Main.

Barry
Thanks Barry - that makes sense - just surprised that 'misrouting' only occurred once with missing junction or pathing - perhaps just lucky!

Chris

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