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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 29/11/2011 at 20:42 #24065 | |
moonraker
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I seem to recall from my days at Old Oak/Paddington that Saltley men were known as "Seagulls" because they signed the road virtually everywhere. On the Western I think the old steam men referred to them as "Sh*te Hawks" :whistle:
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 29/11/2011 at 20:47 #24068 | |
58050
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Yes Moonraker that's true Saltley Seagulls, go anywhere. Although I did hear that they also got that nickname through another more graphical reason which I don't want to post on here.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 30/11/2011 at 12:47 #24116 | |
postal
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Pascal A rule needs changing (or deleting). You have 6G94D arriving at Washwood Heath at 24:33 (i.e. it arrives at the end of the TT span). The LE (0G94D) is then TT'd to Saltley at 00:40 (i.e. it enters at the start of the span). However, there is a rule that 0G94D must appear 10 minutes after 6G94D has left the area so that it does not enter at 00:40 (but will presumably enter at 24:43 or whatever, when I get that far). Should the rule be taken out so that 0G94D enters at 00:40 when the sim has just started? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 30/11/2011 at 12:52 #24118 | |
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58050
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Thanks for that Postal. I would say yes delete that rule so the loco appears at the beginning of the timetable. I'm glad to see you persevered with this timetable & have actually got to the end. Well done. Thanks for the post.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 30/11/2011 at 13:04 #24120 | |
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postal
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" said:Thanks for that Postal. I would say yes delete that rule so the loco appears at the beginning of the timetable. I'm glad to see you persevered with this timetable & have actually got to the end. Well done. Thanks for the post.I've only got to 03:40 - I just wondered why 0G94D was still sitting in bold in the TT rather than greyed out! But don't worry, I'll get to the end in a while. While we are on the subject, 0G37D needs re-timing. 6G37D arr Washwood Heath 11:37, 0G37D dep Washwood Heath 02:39 again with a 10 minute rule. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 30/11/2011 at 13:09 by postal Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 30/11/2011 at 13:17 #24123 | |
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58050
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OK Postal, I hope you do stick with it. You'll feel alot better when you've completed it. It will get fairly hectic from 0600 - 0900 & again from 1630 - 1930. But after those times it get more manageable. Even thought I found it tough at times when I played it on my own during testing, but now I've gone through it, it tends to be slightly easier 2nd time around. I hope people reading this aren't put off playing it. This is where tt's should be graded either based on the number of trains in the tt or by the amount of additional work the signaller has to do in respect of working ground frames & or obtaining slots etc. It would eliminate possible disappointment from Simsiggers who download a tt, start playing it & then give up part way through due to the timetable being too difficult for them to work on their own. There are some of us who prefer tt's in the scale of more trains they contain the better, but that doesn't go for everyone.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 30/11/2011 at 14:10 #24129 | |
kbarber
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" said:I seem to recall from my days at Old Oak/Paddington that Saltley men were known as "Seagulls" because they signed the road virtually everywhere. Sounds like Ripple Lane men. 'Twas always said that when Neil Armstrong stepped out onto the Moon there was a Ripple Lane crew waiting to relieve him! Log in to reply The following users said thank you: sunocske, Steamer |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 30/11/2011 at 14:21 #24131 | |
bossman
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With a teaspoon instead of a master key!!! 
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 30/11/2011 at 15:24 #24135 | |
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postal
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Pascal You've got a couple of PMs from me. JG “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 30/11/2011 at 15:25 #24136 | |
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moonraker
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Ah yes Ripple Lane men used to work the Anchor Butter Liner to Swindon from Tilbury. When I was a shunter in the yards here we always put the kettle on for the driver when we knew it was on the horizon so that he could get some hot water before the return trip back with the empties. They were usually very greatful 
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 01/12/2011 at 01:54 #24177 | |
BarryM
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Pascal, Train 4M35F's TT description contradicts its exit. Barry Added ::Confusing! I found out it eventually went into FT. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 01/12/2011 at 04:52 by BarryM Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 01/12/2011 at 10:22 #24183 | |
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58050
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Responded to your PMs Postal thanks.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 03/12/2011 at 20:22 #24396 | |
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postal
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1E28 needs a rule. I've got it approaching Proof House on its way to Derby while the incoming working is between Lifford and Bordesley!
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 03/12/2011 at 20:34 #24398 | |
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58050
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Thanks for that Postal. I think the best thing is for each individual to add the rule into V7.0a & then save the timetable. I myself have just done that. What you need to do is press 'F4' & rgwn select the Rules tab. The rule should be as follows:- Train 1E281 Must appear X ,inutes after Y arrives or passes Z. In the Time X (mins) put 7, Train Y should read 1E28 & in Location Z should read Birmingham New Street. Once you entered this rule then press OK to close the boxes & on exiting the game, re-save the timetable. Sorry for the step by step guide, but its for those who have never done this before. Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 03/12/2011 at 20:59 #24399 | |
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postal
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Pascal Will there be a re-release with all of the various points posters have made written in? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 03/12/2011 at 21:08 #24400 | |
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58050
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In answer to your question Postal the answer is yes. The only reason I've suggested individuals should add any missing rules is so when they play it they can avoid having the same error you have spotted. Once the timetable has been completed by a handful of players & I have made the various alterations to the timetable as players report them, then I will send the final version with no issues to be re-uploaded. Bearing in mind that this timetable has been available for almost a week now & you've posted a few issues leads me to believe one of two things. Firstly there aren't that many issues or secondly very few people have persevered & are willing to play the timetable through to the end. Despite this timetable being very busy as well as a handful to manage on your own, the number of downloads has been very good all things considered. Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 05/12/2011 at 21:01 #24504 | |
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postal
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5O50R needs looking at. It's at Stratford, the loco has hooked off and is in the neck and the rear of the train is still foul of the crossover. Not sure whether the stopping position needs to be adjusted in the TT to Far End Exact or whether the train is too long for the platform.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 05/12/2011 at 21:11 #24507 | |
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58050
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Now that's interesting, cos when Darren was playing the timetable vefore the sim was released the only problem we had was to shorten 1M80R for the run round at Dorridge where the maximum limit we could get away with was 170m so the RR could take place OK. But I think if memory serves me correctly the train was 176m long, so we had to shorten it to 170m The stop position may solve the problem John. If not it's the length of the train needs reducing by 1 coach. I will have a look at this later or tomorrow & get back to you on that. But thanks for the posting. The first potential issue apart from missing rules. Maybe Joe(jc92) can possibly remember as he was dealing with that side when we were testing the timetable.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 05/12/2011 at 21:21 #24509 | |
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regards 1m80 i think we managed to get it to work in the end. i havent got the timetable to hand which train is 5050r?
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 05/12/2011 at 21:34 #24512 | |
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postal
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VSOE 47 + 9 which comes out of Tyseley and runs round at Stratford. 50% probability so you may never have seen it in testing.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 05/12/2011 at 21:41 #24514 | |
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jc92
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have now looked at the timetable entry postal - regards 5O50R at stratford- i cant remember having any issues with running round (in fact i remember making at least one successful RR, possibly the inbound working). the only issue i remember having was a pathing conflict with one of the "chilterns" services coming from hatton and wanting P1 at the same time. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 05/12/2011 at 21:42 #24516 | |
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postal
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I'll re-run from the save before it got to Stratford and report back. EDIT: Re-ran with same problem. Edited TT to FX stop and train fitted platform. Ran round and the loco was foul of the crossover while joining. Looks like it is just too long to work. I've got a save just as the train reaches Stratford if you want to check. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 05/12/2011 at 22:02 by postal Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 05/12/2011 at 23:09 #24525 | |
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58050
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No I suspect what you are saying is correct. When we did the testing I was on Centre & North panels, so I wasn't really involved with Stratford Upon Avon. That said what with the issue we had with 1M80R at Dorridge ro get the RR to work we had to shorten the train, so I suspect the train is slightly too long by 1 coach length I guess. Will make a note & alter it so when it is re-uploaded we should have cured that problem.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 06/12/2011 at 06:10 #24542 | |
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58050, I'm still making my way through the timetable and have got as far as 1800. It's mainly rules that have been missing that have been the issues I have noticed and when I get to the end, I'll make a list of them all and get them to you.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 06/12/2011 at 09:41 #24550 | |
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58050
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Thanks for the update. I think so far you & John(Postal) seem to be the front runners in completing this timetable. I'm glad most of the issues seem to be 'missing rules' which should be easy to resolve. I will look forward to your final summary of any issues you have come across.
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