RETB- junction stations

Additionally in your case, whilst 2H65 doesn't stop at Evanton, trains running on long section tokens still preform the loop clear marker callback at the intermediate token exchange point which I understood to then free up the section for a standard Dingwall to Evanton token to be issuable (though given that the cab display unit of the first train will still name Dingwall on it I'm now less sure if this does actually work this way)

My (limited) understanding is that the “loop clear” confirmation is purely verbal, with no tokens or parts of tokens exchanged. I’m not sure whether the signalman then updates the system so that the interlocking can allow a token for the other route to be issued though?

There is no 'system' to set the junction points. Inbound they are simply trailed, northbound you push the button on the platform, and as long as there's a train on a track circuit the points move and the 'Points Set' signal clears.

Some crew even ask random bystanders to operate them.

I'd suspect that the Dingwall-Evanton token can be given up on the move.

•Proceeding to an opposite direction crossing loop, you have not given permission for a train to approach the crossing loop concerned from the opposite direction.

Late Turn in post 120210 said:

My (limited) understanding is that the “loop clear” confirmation is purely verbal, with no tokens or parts of tokens exchanged. I’m not sure whether the signalman then updates the system so that the interlocking can allow a token for the other route to be issued though?

Shorly, the Electronic Token is the same as a physical token, and the interlocking being effectivally the same princaple. I see there being no difference between able to get a physical token out of an insturment once a train has passed a given sign, or being able to issue a different electronic token.

The whole point of the token is that that train has permission to be in that Section. Otherwise you're in a situation where you have the signaller remembering where trains are, without indications, to which there has been numerious incidents with this as the cause in the past

Hap in post 120232 said:

•Proceeding to an opposite direction crossing loop, you have not given permission for a train to approach the crossing loop concerned from the opposite direction.

Sorry, another question! How are passing moves handled? The timetable shows passing trains arriving at the station concerned within minutes of each other; the above implies that two trains can't approach the same loop from opposite directions.

Steamer in post 120234 said:

Hap in post 120232 said:

•Proceeding to an opposite direction crossing loop, you have not given permission for a train to approach the crossing loop concerned from the opposite direction.

Sorry, another question! How are passing moves handled? The timetable shows passing trains arriving at the station concerned within minutes of each other; the above implies that two trains can't approach the same loop from opposite directions.

I've messaged about some people who drive in RETB routes up here on both sides of the country. I don't sign any of those routes. Hopefully I'll get a sound answer back in the next couple of days.

But what I believe to understand of that is if you have a token to Dingwall from Clunes TEP. The train would go normally into Platform 1 at Dingwall. you can not therefor give a token to the South bound services if it is also going into platform 1. (Platform 1 is Down Wick, Platform 2 is Up Wick) That would effectively be a opposite direction crossing loop, putting a UP service into the Down Platform.

The movement is allowed as long as it's only one train involved.

Craig.

Do the platforms at Dingwall then have "stop boards" halfway along like the signalling on the platforms at Pitlochry to allow for the overlap or is there a dispensation for reduced overlap because of restricted approach speeds?

Hap in post 120242 said:

Steamer in post 120234 said:

Hap in post 120232 said:

•Proceeding to an opposite direction crossing loop, you have not given permission for a train to approach the crossing loop concerned from the opposite direction.

Sorry, another question! How are passing moves handled? The timetable shows passing trains arriving at the station concerned within minutes of each other; the above implies that two trains can't approach the same loop from opposite directions.

I've messaged about some people who drive in RETB routes up here on both sides of the country. I don't sign any of those routes. Hopefully I'll get a sound answer back in the next couple of days.

But what I believe to understand of that is if you have a token to Dingwall from Clunes TEP. The train would go normally into Platform 1 at Dingwall. you can not therefor give a token to the South bound services if it is also going into platform 1. (Platform 1 is Down Wick, Platform 2 is Up Wick) That would effectively be a opposite direction crossing loop, putting a UP service into the Down Platform.

The movement is allowed as long as it's only one train involved.

Craig.

Ah, right- but I assume it is acceptable to allow a train from the north into platform 2 while a train for platform 1 is approaching from the south?

Quote:

Do the platforms at Dingwall then have "stop boards" halfway along like the signalling on the platforms at Pitlochry to allow for the overlap or is there a dispensation for reduced overlap because of restricted approach speeds?

Must be the latter- the stop boards are at the end of the loop, and there are trains booked to arrive within minutes of each other from opposite directions. Photo of the boards attached.