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Sim in german language 15/05/2025 at 10:36 #161036
Fritschie
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Hello,

i´m Newscomer from germany and have found this simulation.
Is Sim also in german Language or only englich?
Ich have also found the free Royston Staion where i will learn, how goes or must i do if a train coming

regards from germany Joerg

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Sim in german language 15/05/2025 at 10:52 #161037
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Hallo Joerg,

Vielen Dank für deine Nachricht. Die Simulation ist nur auf Englisch verfügbar. Das Handbuch für Royston findest du hier: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:royston Für die kostenlose Royston-Station empfehle ich, das Handbuch durchzulesen, um zu lernen, wie du vorgehen musst, wenn ein Zug ankommt.

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Hello Joerg,

Thank you for your message. The simulation is only available in English. The manual for Royston can be found here: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:royston For the free Royston Station, I recommend reading the manual to learn how to proceed when a train arrives.

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Sim in german language 15/05/2025 at 10:57 #161038
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Your link dosn´t want
I see "This article does not exist yet"

i have found this link https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:areainfo:royston
but there they speak from another train
or https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:royston:roystontutor

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Sim in german language 16/05/2025 at 12:43 #161049
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The manual is currently on my web site at:

https://www.davros.org/rail/SimSig/royston-manual.html

I need to get round to moving it; sorry.

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Sim in german language 17/05/2025 at 08:51 #161053
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Hello,

i see only "File Not Found" with this link to your page

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Sim in german language 17/05/2025 at 09:28 #161054
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The URL is case sensitive - should be https://www.davros.org/rail/SimSig/royston-manual.html - but with lower case S that the Forum keeps changing!!

^^ Link above fixed by escaping the S with %73

Jamie S (JAMS)
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Sim in german language 17/05/2025 at 12:43 #161055
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still says 'file not found'
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Sim in german language 17/05/2025 at 12:56 #161056
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I see what is happening, when posting the link to the forum the SimSig in the URL is capitalising the "S" so it becomes SimSig

To get to the address copy the URL and edit the SimSig so the "s" are lowercase

Boldly going forward 'cause we can't find reverse. Boldly going forward, still can't find reverse. Boldly going forward, and things are getting worse!.
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Sim in german language 26/05/2025 at 17:32 #161134
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On the sims the trains run better than DB
Bring back IC125's!
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Sim in german language 26/05/2025 at 18:40 #161136
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Speaking of sims in German language I have often thought it would be good for SImSig to have a simulation of part of Germany such as Köln (Cologne) which I think would be quite a large area. You could extend that to a neighbouring town or city as well if doable: the tram networks of Cologne and Bonn interconnect.

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Sim in german language 28/05/2025 at 11:38 #161151
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A simulation of Cologne Hauptbahnhof in the form of the relay based technology used in the real box is available. The same provider also offers the boxes down the left bank of the Rhine as far as Koblenz.

The documentation is fully in English so I assume the software is too.

There are other providers which offer simulators which replicate the interface of German equivalent VDU-based system. So I cannot see a reason why you would develop a German simulation using the SimSig platform.

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Sim in german language 29/05/2025 at 07:04 #161160
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I think the SimSig platform is quite easy-to-use and not overcomplicated for the end user to do the signalling stuff, so any foreign territory created to this platform would be a superb product.

However, I don't think a Germany based SimSig sim would work, as the signalling logic (speed signalling, route presetting over conflicting movements - the equipment calls the preset route automatically after the conflicting route have released and all conditions met to do that) and operation routines are rather different to the UK (think about 2 to 5-digit train numbers, for example). I don't know whether the SimSig core code is capable for any of them I've mentioned above or not.

And for the record, eastern block countries like Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary and Poland (there may be more but I'm not familiar with their signalling) are far more different, eg. shunt signals (similar to GPL's) must not be set for train movements and main signals must not be set to shunts. This means shunting through red signals or trains running full speed next to a shunt signal being ON (displaying blue light in the countries mentioned above) is a feature that goes against all the basic logic of SimSig and UK signalling practice. Not to mention that a lot of stations don't have shunt signals, so every shunting movements are made by presetting points one-by-one, using hand signals and/or radio messages for controlling the movements. I can't imagine this would work in any realistic ways in the SimSig universe. And this is what I think about a German SimSig territory, too. It would be interesting, but not that realistic you would expect at first.

And one more thing: I prefer signalling simulations from around the world on their local language, bearing in mind it would be quite challenging to me. I'm Hungarian, but I am playing with SimSig in English, as it is a UK-based (with branches to the US and Australia). I am playing the Czech simulations like RWS Jedlová, Liberec st. 3. and Softikon sims in Czech. I am playing the Stellwerksim in German. I think the railway jargon is unique to any country or language, and can't be fully translated to another one because the signalling and operational differences I've mentioned above. For example, I know what a call-on route means in SimSig and how (and when) do you use it. However, in Hungary, the similar purpose signal aspect "Hívójelzés" is rather different: can be used not only to call on a train on an occupied line, but to let a train through any equipment failure with a very limited speed (15 km/h) - track circuit failures, failed flank protection, or even on bi-directional routes stuck in the opposite direction - and it is not allowed to use for shunting!

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Sim in german language 29/05/2025 at 07:37 #161161
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I will only sort out the differences in Poland. In fact, shunt signals do not participate in the preparation of train movements (they remain in the basic state - blue aspect), while the display of a signal permitting train movement is a prohibition to perform a shunt movement. The red signal is important for both shunt and train movements. If someone would like to know more about the Polish system, I can tell you more about it.
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Sim in german language 29/05/2025 at 08:44 #161162
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Right, this is then identical to the Hungarian (and most OSJD member railway's) practice.
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Sim in german language 29/05/2025 at 12:46 #161165
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sunocske in post 161160 said:
route presetting over conflicting movements - the equipment calls the preset route automatically after the conflicting route have released and all conditions met to do that
Plenty of significant challenges in any such project, but this one is already available. It is used in a couple of Australian sims.

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