Hull and Surrounding areas

Please find attached a very poor but correct diagram of the Hull station area

Sacro,

In 1984 When Hull Pargaon was re-signalled and the Entrance Exit Panel was installed (Not I.F.S.) as it was stated on another thread to to with Hull in the mock simulations bit of the forum. You could for a short while after the re-sginalling was completed use the By Pass Line to go towards Botanic Gardens but alterations took place in 1987/88. That saw the points into the stock siding sprung in reverse making traffic wanting to go to Botanic Gardens have no other option but to use the Washer Line. The Exit button that I think you re-fare to is the button on the panel for the "R" indicatior attached to the stop board. As HP1001 Appertains to traffic coming out of both the Stock Siding and the By Line. A Stop Board was erected with an "R" Indicator attached on the by pass line to tell the driver coming out of Botanic Gardens to stop at this board if the "R" is not illuminated if the "R" is illuminated them the driver can carry and proceed as normal towards HP1001 as no conflicting moves out of the stock siding is being made.
Why they never installed a GPL is beyond me! A lot of old hand people in the Ops Department and S&T Side reckon that a mistake was made during the scoping for the project and the additional GPL and associated interlocking would have pushed the project over budget and Hull Paragon was only going to be temporary before it was going to go into Hessle Road and they would add it to the interlocking then. The Button on the panel for the "R" Indicator is not interlocked with anything. The SBSI's do state that the signalman is to clear HP1001 1st then clear the "R" indicator after HP 1001 has cleared but there is nothing stopping the signalman from clearing that 1st and dropping a train down to HP1001.

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Zero Delta Zero Seven

Afternoon,

Yes HR 93 Points did exist and those points was commissioned in 1981 when West Parade Signal Box closed infact they used to be what was West Parade No45 Points and was controlled by Hessle Road till 1988 when larger part of Botanic Gardens TMD was closed and access/egress was via the Washer Road and By Pass line. The interlocking was altered that saw the points removed but it was still possible to make moves facing road towards Walton Street Level Crossing. I can confirm that has I have Hessle Road Signal Boxes panel fascias in my garage and turning it over you can see clearly where the S&T have filled and painted out the connections for Botanic Gardens TMD.

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Zero Delta Zero Seven

Likelihood is it would be modern set up - SimSig no longer likes doing multi era sims sadly. A shame, post 84 you'd have had 31s on the Transpennines (and the bizarre Paddington - Hull)

SimSig no longer likes doing multi era sims sadly

Likelihood is it would be modern set up - SimSig no longer likes doing multi era sims sadly. A shame, post 84 you'd have had 31s on the Transpennines (and the bizarre Paddington - Hull)

Afternoon,

The Bay Platforms at Brough was removed in 2006. They was signed out of use circa 1999 from about 1994 onwards they had been used for stabling tampers and ballast regulators and other on track plant. The removal of the Banner at Gilberdyke did not take place till 2001/2 the outer distants was installed for Oxmardyke worked for a while with the Distant Banner repeater for about a year this arrangement lasted.

It would be nice if an 80s era is done and also if South Humberside is ever updated that the pre Sheffield Roc layout and signalling could be kept for those that write and produce the 1970 through the mid 00's Timetables as it will allow for these to be as authentic as they possibly can be.

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Zero Delta Zero Seven

Afternoon,

It would be nice if an 80s era is done and also if South Humberside is ever updated that the pre Sheffield Roc layout and signalling could be kept for those that write and produce the 1970 through the mid 00's Timetables as it will allow for these to be as authentic as they possibly can be.

If anyone is updating South Humberside please make sure that all the entry and exit points are labelled carefully ! The old sim was like take pot luck to find these positions.

If anyone is updating South Humberside please make sure that all the entry and exit points are labelled carefully ! The old sim was like take pot luck to find these positions.