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Can anybody explain this? 09/04/2013 at 09:23 #43215
Rickurd
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I was playing Brighton and I got this error message. I thought it was a bit odd so I went back to the previous snapshot, and it happened again.


Rick.

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Can anybody explain this? 09/04/2013 at 10:40 #43220
jimgos2005
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I have had those a few times I normally save game log out and log back in to the sim or ignore them
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Can anybody explain this? 09/04/2013 at 10:42 #43221
Rickurd
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A few trains stopped dead when it happened though, even though it said they were moving via F2, there wern't
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Can anybody explain this? 09/04/2013 at 10:56 #43224
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" said:
I thought it was a bit odd so I went back to the previous snapshot, and it happened again.

It might be a good idea to upload your "previous snapshot" so that we can see if we get the problem.

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Can anybody explain this? 09/04/2013 at 11:01 #43226
Rickurd
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Good idea
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Can anybody explain this? 10/04/2013 at 12:49 #43271
Rickurd
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I tried the snapshot again this morning, and the error seems to be happen as soon as 1H31 finishes joining.
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Can anybody explain this? 10/04/2013 at 17:53 #43285
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Maybe your not aloud to set a route for a train while its joining. Occasionally if your joining you'll have a red, yellow or double yellow. just depends what type of signaler is on.
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Can anybody explain this? 10/04/2013 at 17:54 #43286
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Maybe your not aloud to set a route for a train while its joining. Occasionally if your joining you'll have a red, yellow or double yellow. just depends what type of signaler is on. ;)
I had the route set becasue he was late, and I wanted him to depart sharpish

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Can anybody explain this? 10/04/2013 at 18:11 #43289
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Whether a train is joining or not has no bearing on whether you are allowed to set a route or not.
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Can anybody explain this? 11/04/2013 at 01:25 #43305
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Richard,
I could not get the snapshot to produce the message. I have seen this error message elsewhere and I believe it could be a result of too many "windows" open at the one time. I notice you have a big clock in the background. Try running the snapshot with the minimum number of windows and other programs required to be open and see if the message occurs.

Barry

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Can anybody explain this? 11/04/2013 at 06:38 #43306
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That clock is just a desktop gadget.

IIRC, I played sims with ten Chrome windows (not simply tabs), a few Windows Explorer windows and Eclipse opened at a time but never saw this error message.

A bit searching on Google seems that most people encountered this problem when writing Delphi programs (and SimSig is written in Delphi). Usually some code just set disabled or hid a control and then try to call SetFocus on it will cause this exception, so there may be a few buggy lines of code in SimSig that is doing that. (Or just blame Delphi, because it could just silently ignore the call to SetFocus if the control is hidden or disabled instead of telling Windows to set focus and causing an error which make Delphi throws an exception.)

Anyway, according to a reply by Hpotter of the post linked by vontrapp, it should already be fixed in the core code and should not happen again in future release (let's say not long from now), I guess.

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Can anybody explain this? 11/04/2013 at 15:03 #43323
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I once had 37 other windows open, (12 google chromes with about 20 tabs,) and no problems.

josh.

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Can anybody explain this? 11/04/2013 at 16:41 #43328
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Maybe your not aloud to set a route for a train while its joining. Occasionally if your joining you'll have a red, yellow or double yellow. just depends what type of signaler is on. ;)

Just picked up on this, and - noting Lardybiker's reply - I'm a little perplexed! If a second train has been signalled into a platform, and it's had time to come to a stand, the interlocking can't possibly know whether it's joining what's already in there or merely sharing a platform with it. There's nothing, then, to stop the platform starter (in both directions if you want) showing a proceed aspect - whether that's Y, YY or G depends on the state of subsequent signals and has very little to do with the Signalman's mood! Obviously Huddersfield Control might apply if the second train is still in the process of being signalled in, but that doesn't sound like what's going on here.

I'm guessing and hoping you're not referring to the signal in rear of the platform clearing for the second train - which, under those circumstances, certainly shouldn't clear to a yellow!

Tom

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Can anybody explain this? 11/04/2013 at 16:44 #43329
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Richard,
I could not get the snapshot to produce the message. I have seen this error message elsewhere and I believe it could be a result of too many "windows" open at the one time. I notice you have a big clock in the background. Try running the snapshot with the minimum number of windows and other programs required to be open and see if the message occurs.

Barry
I doubt its related to the number of windows I have open, as I would have thought that would cause general slowdowns/RAM issues as well as issues in other programs as well, and I can assure you I have no issues with lack of RAM

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Can anybody explain this? 11/04/2013 at 17:44 #43333
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I forget the actual cause but simply something to do with Delphi trying to activate a window that wasn't visible. Nothing to do with the number of windows open. If the sim is still running quite happily then you can ignore the warning.
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Can anybody explain this? 11/04/2013 at 18:02 #43335
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I forget the actual cause but simply something to do with Delphi trying to activate a window that wasn't visible. Nothing to do with the number of windows open. If the sim is still running quite happily then you can ignore the warning.
Thanks Geoff

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Can anybody explain this? 12/04/2013 at 02:02 #43341
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Richard,
I could not get the snapshot to produce the message. I have seen this error message elsewhere and I believe it could be a result of too many "windows" open at the one time. I notice you have a big clock in the background. Try running the snapshot with the minimum number of windows and other programs required to be open and see if the message occurs.

Barry
I doubt its related to the number of windows I have open, as I would have thought that would cause general slowdowns/RAM issues as well as issues in other programs as well, and I can assure you I have no issues with lack of RAM :)
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Richard,

I was not referring to RAM/slowdowns. I am interested to know what was the result of running the snapshot from a clean boot? Did you still get the error?

Barry

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Can anybody explain this? 12/04/2013 at 13:52 #43346
Rickurd
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Richard,
I could not get the snapshot to produce the message. I have seen this error message elsewhere and I believe it could be a result of too many "windows" open at the one time. I notice you have a big clock in the background. Try running the snapshot with the minimum number of windows and other programs required to be open and see if the message occurs.

Barry
I doubt its related to the number of windows I have open, as I would have thought that would cause general slowdowns/RAM issues as well as issues in other programs as well, and I can assure you I have no issues with lack of RAM :)
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Richard,

I was not referring to RAM/slowdowns. I am interested to know what was the result of running the snapshot from a clean boot? Did you still get the error?

Barry
I get the error both from a clean boot and if I run it when the PC on has been on a few hours

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Can anybody explain this? 12/04/2013 at 15:10 #43353
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The cause of the error has already been stated by Geoff (who also said it is now solved), so I'm not sure what Barry and Rickurd are trying to find?
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Can anybody explain this? 12/04/2013 at 19:23 #43391
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Neither could I!
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Can anybody explain this? 12/04/2013 at 19:24 #43392
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Richard,
I could not get the snapshot to produce the message.
Barry
Neither could I!

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Can anybody explain this? 13/04/2013 at 00:19 #43405
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" said:
The cause of the error has already been stated by Geoff (who also said it is now solved), so I'm not sure what Barry and Rickurd are trying to find?
Solved!? Why does Richard get the message and I and others do not. May be other Delphi programs running? There is more in it than the explanation above.

Barry

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Can anybody explain this? 14/04/2013 at 13:01 #43439
Rickurd
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I'm going to try running in a clean OS on a virtual machine to see if there is a software conflict somewhere :)

I shall report back my findings

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Can anybody explain this? 14/04/2013 at 15:17 #43445
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On a clean install I got no error.
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