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| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 02/04/2010 at 08:17 #1044 | |
NorthernWarrior
74 posts |
Sorry if this is a bit newbish sounding, but I can't get terminating trains into the siding at Cumbernauld. I click on the signal then on the grey triangle but get a message that the route is not available. I've had to put the ECS on manual control and run it down to Greenhill and cross over there. All adding to the general chaos on my first attempt at this particular sim, probably got about 3000 delay minutes so far!
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| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 02/04/2010 at 08:17 #8100 | |
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NorthernWarrior
74 posts |
Sorry if this is a bit newbish sounding, but I can't get terminating trains into the siding at Cumbernauld. I click on the signal then on the grey triangle but get a message that the route is not available. I've had to put the ECS on manual control and run it down to Greenhill and cross over there. All adding to the general chaos on my first attempt at this particular sim, probably got about 3000 delay minutes so far!
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| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 02/04/2010 at 08:31 #8101 | |
AndyG
1834 posts |
There is insufficient overlap to signal directly into the turnback siding. Signal the train to Cumbernauld Stn, and wait for the white 'overlap' to drop out (about 1 min after the train arrives). Once this happens, you will be able to set the route into the turnback. It's a safety precaution, to prevent a train being able to run at speed into a (short) dead-end siding by requiring it to come to a stand before proceeding. There's a similar one at Bedwyn on the Westbury sim, see this explanation. I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Log in to reply |
| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 02/04/2010 at 13:16 #8108 | |
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AnyFile
101 posts |
About Cumbernauld, am I correct in assuming that a train should be able to reverse on the main down line at after shunt signal CN654 (between CN654 and CN365 or CN367)? I tried once to signal a train there instead to the turnback, but the driver phone me complaining. I made it going on the main down line (I do not remember the details now, but I should have abandoned the timetable), I then make the train resume the timetable and set the next location as the turnback. The train did not stopped after CN654 but proceeded along (I had to reverse it manually). I have looked among the locations that can be select in the timetable editor, and I can not find anything to rapresent the point between CN654 and CN365 or CN367 (or to ask for a reverse there). I have also looked at the box section in the manual, and I have not found any reference to this location. Log in to reply |
| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 02/04/2010 at 14:06 #8110 | |
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NorthernWarrior
74 posts |
That is what I tried for the first train but I forgot to replace the next signal beyond Cumbernauld which is automatic. Off to Greenhill it went, without querying the route! Second time I did replace the auto and threw the main to main crossover but the ECS didn't move, so another one off on a "token diversion" to Greenhill. I guess what I should have done was get the ECS beyond the crossover then manually select reverse, into the opposite platform. All the time a lovely queue of traffic building up behind... 
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| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 02/04/2010 at 16:24 #8119 | |
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UKTrainMan
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Had this just the other night on a private multiplayer session...I was stupidly a bit "gung ho" with setting the routes due to a group of trains heading in the same direction, the first train of course terminated at Cumbernauld (which I managed to call/describe as Cumbernauled :: ) and so there I went setting the route straight ahead instead of into the turnback. Activated/used the Emergency Replacement on Signal EJ415 as a precaution in-case the train accepted the wrong route, although it turns out I would have be safe to use the Emergency Replacement on Signal CN367 without causing a ACoA/CoA (Adverse Charnge of Asepct / Change of Aspect) but anyway I was thankfully permitted by the host to cancel the route so we accepted the penalty for my error. But anyway we're not properly playing for score in this private game. I advise others to watch out out for trains turning around at Cumbernauld!
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| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 03/04/2010 at 07:20 #8136 | |
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NorthernWarrior
74 posts |
Now another one that's puzzling me. Just realised I've got some ECS left in P5 at Stirling, but I can't see how to get it out. There's only one GPL which seems to control exit from P3 bay but I can't even manually switch the points to talk the stock out of No 5 unsignalled.
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| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 03/04/2010 at 08:43 #8141 | |
flymo
135 posts |
If you mean the points between P4 & P5 then before you set the ground signal SN31 you need to manually set the points to the immediate left of the signal to ensure they are set to P5. Then when the points are set you can set the route from signal SN31. If you clear the signal first and the route is set to P4 then you cannot swing them to P5.
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| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 03/04/2010 at 09:15 #8144 | |
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NorthernWarrior
74 posts |
Only 90' late then... Yikes.
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| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 03/04/2010 at 09:15 #8145 | |
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AndyG
1834 posts |
This is here in the manual, under Stirling N box details. (Edinburgh MR1&2 and PC1&2 are very similar in operation as well) I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Log in to reply |
| Cumbernauld Turnback Siding? 09/04/2010 at 21:04 #8331 | |
Peter Bennet
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The ability to turn a train on the main line is an omission. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |