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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 07/12/2009 at 16:11 #4893 | |
Forest Pines
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ozzyd9001 said:i have some whare have gone and put them (in a safe place) working tt from the 80s. i will try and dig them out if you wish and scan them for you.I already have the main timetables needed, although I'm missing the fringes - the Worksop line passenger workings, the Hope Valley line, and Chesterfield-Clay Cross. What I don't have are: DMU diagrams, NPCCS loco/stock diagrams, and details of non-timetabled freight services. Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 07/12/2009 at 16:19 #4894 | |
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ozzyd9001
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ok forest give me 30 minutes or so and i will go find the tts then let you know if i can fill any gaps yours paul Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 08/12/2009 at 16:55 #4924 | |
bossman
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You may have fixed this Pascal but 6T10 needs to divide front at Kilnhurst Goods loop. Also 2Y17 needs re-platforming as 4A is occupied i put it in 1A, the return working 2L24 also needs changing to 1A. Cliff cliff cook Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 08/12/2009 at 18:36 #4925 | |
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Noisynoel
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Guys, I am in the process of doing a station simplifer which will highlight all the platform clashes. Noisynoel Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 09/12/2009 at 20:52 #4950 | |
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bossman
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Sorry if this has been fixed already but i have 9T03 from Roundwood 11" Mill going to Tinsley Yd via Rotherham, but there is no route that way. The only way i can see is to route via Sheffield with a run round there then route via the Worksop line. Cliff cliff cook Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 10:52 #4962 | |
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Forest Pines
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Is it possible to do a double-reverse at Aldwarke Jn instead? Pull out of the sidings, reverse back to north of the junction, then reverse again and head for Rotherham?
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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 11:10 #4963 | |
58050
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Forest Pines can't really answer your question as I haven't got my PC back from being repaired. Read your response Re: Sheffield 1986 & fully understand. Didn't really want to play it, just to see if you may have something i am missing.
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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 11:12 #4964 | |
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Forest Pines
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When you're ready, message me your email and I'll send over my working notes. They're mostly stored in an .ods file - an OpenOffice spreadsheet document.
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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 11:25 #4965 | |
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Noisynoel
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Forest Pines, Re double reverseat Aldwark Jn, just tried... route is available & it works in the TT Noisynoel Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 11:26 #4966 | |
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58050
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Fores Pines my e-mail address is:- pascalnadin@yahoo.co.uk I was going to say if you are having difficulty with certain information you require, then I maybe able to help you. I got a list of 1985 Tinsley depot trip working which I will be using in my 1984 Sheffield WTT. I've also got section 'YJ' 1984/1985 Freight Train services WTT for Yorkshire & Humberside areas. I'm awaiting collection of 1984 section 'YE' Passenger & Parcels train services fbetween Chesterfield & York. Then I will have all the info I need, plus what I kept from my time on the railways in the regional control offices. Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 11:43 #4967 | |
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58050
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Noel, will e-mail you the latest version of Sheffield 1991-1994. Thanks for your spreadsheet. I know you're quite busy & my PC has still not been fixed, so I wondered whether you may have the time to do some of the corrections, as I probably won't get my PC back for about 7 - 10 days. Also in the version I send you the run rounds at Woodhouse Sdgs will have to be put in, because when you e-mailed me the version back after you added them, I sent you back at the same time a version where I had added some more trains & I don't think the run rounds at Woodhaouse Sdgs for the trip workings were ever copied over.
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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 15:09 #4968 | |
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58050
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Forest Pines, let me see if I can help you a bit with regards to freight train arrival & departures from Tinsley yard. This isbased on 1985 which may well be very similar to 1986.:- Tinsley, non-Speedlink Arrivals & Departures - 1985 Code Time Days From To Arr.Tinsley Dep. Tinsley Commodity 6E49 2045 FSX Stanlow Tinsley 2357 oil loads 9J71 2310 SX-Y Doncaster Tinsley 0007 dept 9J70 0008 MX-Y Dringhouses Tinsley 0149 dept 7M68 0207 MSX Tinsley Stanlow 0207 oil etys 6J45 0043 MX Immingham Tinsley 0246 8M81 0752 MSX Tinsley Derby 0246 6L46 0832 SX Tinsley Goole 0832 steel 6M97 0822 SX Tinsley Wolverhampton 0822 steel 8O55 1230 MTThO Tinsley Betteshanger 1230 coal etys 9D44 1428 SX-Y Tinsley Scunthorpe 1428 Dept 6J25 1845 SX-Y Scunthorpe Tinsley 2009 steel 9J28 1540 SX-Y Healey Mills Tinsley 1712 dept 6E68 1416 SX Wolverhampton Tinsley 1739 steel 9L28 1834 SX Tinsley Healey Mills 1834 dept 9D71 2030 SX-Y Tinsley Doncaster 2030 dept 9L70 2113 SX-Y Tinsley York 2113 dept 7D32 2045 MFO Tinsley Immingham 2045 Y = Runs as required. Hope this helps.... Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 15:35 #4969 | |
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58050
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Forest Pines here's a list of Tinsley Speedlink Arrivals & Departures 1985 Code Time Days From To Arr.Tinsley Dep.Tinsley 6V85 2018 SX Tees Bescot 2331 0018 7J29 0046 MX Doncaster Tinsley 0133 6E64 1915 SX Severn Tnl Haverton Hill 0028 0151 6E38 2133 SX Bescot Doncaster 0017 0102 6J62 2026 SX Parkeston Tinsley 0337 7M88 0127 MX Dringhouses Derby St. Marys 0256 0350 6L81 0410 MX Tinsley Hull 0410 6E75 2124 SX Willesden Hunslet 0436 0516 6E63 0212 MX Warrington Tinsley 0533 6J60 0630 SX Tinsley Barrow Hill 0630 6J61 1511 SX Barrow Hill Tinsley 1634 6V06 1648 SX Healey Mills Severn Tnl 1754 1841 7E49 1514 SX Bescot Dringhouses 1838 1934 7L60 1800 SX Worksop Healey Mills 1840 2005 7D63 1749 SX Healey Mills Worksop 1905 2040 6H91 2055 SX Tinsley Whitemoor 2055 7D19 2144 SX Tinsley Doncaster 2144 6M70 2156 SX Tinsley Warrington 2156 Hope this table also helps. Obviously there are Tinsley depot trip workings that go in & out of the yard all day & the list I'm using for my 1984 Sheffield WTT is based around 1985 also. Anyway I'll let you know how I'm getting on with my version once I start it & hopefully it will be ready for testing at least in the New Year. Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 20:33 #4981 | |
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ozzyd9001
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i am playing the updated tt now pascal and the westhorp run rounds are still the same as the first draft.
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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 20:39 #4982 | |
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Noisynoel
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Ozzy et al.. Pascal has sent me his latest version today & I am now ammending the platforms and westhorpe RR's. Pascal still has no PC, but as soon as done (Tomorrow hopefully) I will send it back to him for onward distribution to the testers.. Noisynoel Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 10/12/2009 at 22:10 #4991 | |
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ozzyd9001
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thanks for that noisynoel will lookout for it yours paul Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 11/12/2009 at 10:40 #5005 | |
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Forest Pines
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58050 said:Tinsley, non-Speedlink Arrivals & Departures - 1985 ...Thanks for that. I haven't checked through it thoroughly, but the amount of traffic and the flows are comparable to the 1986 WTT that I've been using as source data. Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 18/12/2009 at 09:41 #5122 | |
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58050
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To all those who are playing Sheffield 1991-1994 WTT, I will add the last remaining dozen or so trains over this weekend. When finished I will e-mail the final version to Peter to upload it again on the forum. Sorry for the delay, I am using my sons laptop & should be picking up my new PC before Christmas. Have started my Trent 1987/1988 WTT & I am waiting the arrival in the post of a Passenger & Parcels trains WTT section YE for May 1983 - May 1984, once that arrives then I will also ,ale a start on that WTT.
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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 18/12/2009 at 12:30 #5123 | |
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Forest Pines
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That reminds me, I haven't sent you my 1986 timetable notes yet, have I? The 1986 table has about 6 trains left to add in; and about 6 sim-time hours of testing to run; then it will be ready for beta release. A Before-The-End-Of-The year release, I hope, even if it's not ready for Christmas! (the beta release will be a bit harder than a proper final release, too, because all the Q and Y trains always run, even the ones with conflicting paths) Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 18/12/2009 at 22:56 #5134 | |
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58050
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It would be interesting to see the variation in the workings between 1984 & 1986. Certainly the traction types will have changed on some freight& passenger services. He nly thing is which WTT to finish first. I will of course finish this one first & probably continue with the Trent 1987/88 WTT which I have already started & if your 1986 is going to be released within the next 4 weeks I think the SimSiggers would prefer to have a chance to go through your one. The only issue for doing a Trent 1980's WTT is that the 1980's scenario isn't available in this current beta release, therefore there has been the need to do some tweaking at Nottingham, namely Nott'm Parcels Concentration Depot isn't on the modern day layout, so I've substituted @Eastcroft RR' as the PCD. This hopefully won't be necessary in the Sheffield 1980's scenario, although Nunnery Carriage Sdgs is missing completely off the plan.
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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 19/12/2009 at 11:59 #5144 | |
Splodge
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Might be worth holding off on Trent; I'm sure Kurt posted somewhere that he is working on a new Trent - it would be a shame if the TT was incompatible with this!
There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 19/12/2009 at 17:50 #5155 | |
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Forest Pines
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Nunnery CS are not a problem so far as the '86 timetable is concerned; indeed, they're not mentioned in the real WTT. I did have to insert one Sheffield-Moorthorpe ECS working to complete an "obvious-looking" HST diagram, for the daily Sheffield-London return Executive HST service, which looked like it needed to be returned to Neville Hill for everything to balance.
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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 19/12/2009 at 20:01 #5158 | |
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ozzyd9001
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i think in the late 80`s early 90`s there was a class 31 and 3 coach parcels in platform 1 effectivly splitting the platform in 2 for most of the day. stood at the parcels platform mid way along platform 1 oppasite it. hope this helps yours paul Log in to reply |
| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 19/12/2009 at 23:37 #5164 | |
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58050
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Got your e-mail Forest Pines & thanks for the info Paul. At some point this Sunday I will hopefully finish off this WTT. I'll then pass it on to either Peter or Noel to upload it to the forum. Noel I've got my new PC today & currently doing the Trent 1987/88 WTT & using the laptop to access the internet, so I'm multi-tasking. Forest Pines, will have a look at your stuff during the week & will e-mail if I can assist your WTT. During 1986 I was a secondman at St. Pancras used to go to Sheffield, Derby & Nott'm, but transfered to Bedford during that year & subsequently worked to Toton also.
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| Sheffield 1991 - 1994 WTT 19/12/2009 at 23:42 #5165 | |
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Noisynoel
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Pascal, Just mulitplayed it a bit more & got some bits to e-mail u from it... Noisynoel Log in to reply |